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Post by twiggy on Jan 23, 2021 20:45:02 GMT
Wondering if there's a ye old rope maker / mender in the midlands? Does anyone know how to do this? My centre line got caught under my solar panels in the wind and it now looks like a mouse has been nibbling away on it. Would love to know how to fix this. I'm in the make do and mend brigrade, seems wastful to buy a new one, it's not really very old, I paid a bit more for them so they're not the synthetic, waxed kind, they're lovely thick ropes. Anyone got any skillzzz to share? Thanks. T.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 20:53:42 GMT
if its a braided rope it isn't easy. The other sort can be spliced.
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Post by twiggy on Jan 23, 2021 20:59:21 GMT
Yes, I'm sure it can be spliced, has been already.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 21:04:07 GMT
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Post by quaysider on Jan 24, 2021 8:54:50 GMT
I'd be looking on you tube for videos you can pause at various stages... that's how I worked out how to do back splices and make my own eyes.
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Post by Jim on Jan 24, 2021 9:14:09 GMT
Joining 2 ropes is the easiest splice, just a bit of weaving really. Tape the ends of the 3 main strands, makes the job easier. Animated Knots have an android app. It does a freeze frame example.
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Post by tonyb on Jan 24, 2021 9:15:27 GMT
As long as the damaged section still has adequate strength I would whip it. Not only would it make it look better but also the whipping could be redone when that gets moth eared. Whipping is easier than splicing I find but may require a couple of goes to get it nice and tight. I would probably varnish the whipping to solidify it (nail varnish will do at a pinch).
I am sure Mr Google ha slots of whipping entries.
A no rope/cord work method would be to slide some heat shrink tubing over it and shrink it.
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Post by bodger on Jan 24, 2021 9:42:27 GMT
I'd be looking on you tube for videos you can pause at various stages... that's how I worked out how to do back splices and make my own eyes. my left one doesn't work. Can you direct me to a U Tube link to show me how to fix it or make a new one?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2021 9:58:51 GMT
Another option for slightly damaged ropes is a length of bicycle inner tube.
Inner tubes can usually be found in the same sort of locations as bags of dog shit ie hanging from branches of trees.
Just be careful when retrieving.
Handy bit of rubber also useable for making really big catapults.
A length of innertube over the damaged part then either stitch the ends or put a little bit of glue lined heat shrink over each end that should work.
You could use a length of heatshrink for the whole thing but it tends to go a big rigid and if not glue lined it will probably slide off.
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Post by tonyb on Jan 24, 2021 10:34:58 GMT
Another option for slightly damaged ropes is a length of bicycle inner tube. Inner tubes can usually be found in the same sort of locations as bags of dog shit ie hanging from branches of trees. Just be careful when retrieving. Handy bit of rubber also useable for making really big catapults. A length of innertube over the damaged part then either stitch the ends or put a little bit of glue lined heat shrink over each end that should work. You could use a length of heatshrink for the whole thing but it tends to go a big rigid and if not glue lined it will probably slide off. Or if they are a suitably small diameter a length could maybe rolled into position and then rolled over the damage. and it will stay in place on its own.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2021 10:42:35 GMT
Another option for slightly damaged ropes is a length of bicycle inner tube. Inner tubes can usually be found in the same sort of locations as bags of dog shit ie hanging from branches of trees. Just be careful when retrieving. Handy bit of rubber also useable for making really big catapults. A length of innertube over the damaged part then either stitch the ends or put a little bit of glue lined heat shrink over each end that should work. You could use a length of heatshrink for the whole thing but it tends to go a big rigid and if not glue lined it will probably slide off. Or if they are a suitably small diameter a length could maybe rolled into position and then rolled over the damage. and it will stay in place on its own. That is doable if you use the thin ones. I haven't tried it but I think heating the tube up in hot water might make it easier to apply.
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Post by JohnV on Jan 24, 2021 10:57:32 GMT
To be honest, unless it's a large diameter, expensive rope, I don't bother.
The cost of a new long centre line for a narrowboat is not a lot .... replace it and cut the damaged line into good pieces and make into new short lnes, grommets, strops, rope slings etc. .... there is always plenty of re-purposing possible for rope.
why put a weak spot in a line that is important.
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Post by tonyb on Jan 24, 2021 11:09:59 GMT
To be honest, unless it's a large diameter, expensive rope, I don't bother. The cost of a new long centre line for a narrowboat is not a lot .... replace it and cut the damaged line into good pieces and make into new short lnes, grommets, strops, rope slings etc. .... there is always plenty of re-purposing possible for rope. why put a weak spot in a line that is important. I would suggest that the centre line is the one line that can safely be the weakest because its a handling line, not a mooring line, and the weakest part in the handling chain will be the human. In any case it all depends upon just how damaged the line is and we don't know that. I have never had a centre line break but have had a few bow or stern lines snap when idiots come past too fast.
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Post by JohnV on Jan 24, 2021 11:32:05 GMT
To be honest, unless it's a large diameter, expensive rope, I don't bother. The cost of a new long centre line for a narrowboat is not a lot .... replace it and cut the damaged line into good pieces and make into new short lnes, grommets, strops, rope slings etc. .... there is always plenty of re-purposing possible for rope. why put a weak spot in a line that is important. I would suggest that the centre line is the one line that can safely be the weakest because its a handling line, not a mooring line, and the weakest part in the handling chain will be the human. In any case it all depends upon just how damaged the line is and we don't know that. I have never had a centre line break but have had a few bow or stern lines snap when idiots come past too fast. I understand what you are saying Tony but my philosophy still stands, why introduce an unneccessary weak spot .... scrap it.
modern small diameter high strength rope is not expensive, why repair, especially when the old one can be easily and usefully repurposed.
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Post by Jim on Jan 24, 2021 12:32:00 GMT
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