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Post by Clinton Cool on Feb 25, 2021 18:47:44 GMT
A similar argument was made years ago. Theresa May, then Home Secretary, responded by putting the brakes on stop and search. This resulted in an alarming rise in knife crime. 'Black leaders' called for reinstatement of the previous regime, this took place and led to a reduction in the slaughter. It seems that this is going round in circles.
Police need to use at least a reasonable level of intelligence in order to do their job effectively. Intelligence means concentrating their efforts in areas that experience/ statistics suggest the problem is likely to lie. It's really no good for the police to stop and search equally amongst all the different groups that make up our population; forsaking intelligence for the high altar of WOKE.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 18:52:49 GMT
These lads are rich beyond the dreams of Everest.
Or was it avarice.
Quite impressive for tuneless music.
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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Feb 25, 2021 19:58:26 GMT
A good friend of mine was a Met policeman before he was blown up twice, had a bag of bricks miss him by inches from the top of a block of flats, was shot once, knifed 4 times, stab vest saved him. It was when the Met were pronounced as "racist." Stop and search is concentrated on those likely to be carrying weapons or involved in crime and/or drugs. Common denominator? Black skin. There is no contradiction, simple figures support the fact that more crime is committed by non white citizens. I'm sure you are right. But would you mind quoting your source material? As you asked, official government figures, shocking. www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/number-of-arrests/latest
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 20:35:41 GMT
Those stats could easily be skewed by an unbalanced stop and search system, to be fair.
There could be loads and loads of white youth with knives but they never get picked up. They also perhaps never do crime but maybe loads of the black youth with knives would never harm a fly either.
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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Feb 25, 2021 20:43:48 GMT
So you would rather confuse the issue to fit in with your desires? Ask any law officer, they will tell you the same.
Do you carry a bucket of sand around with you to stick your head in when the truth disagrees with you personal view?
These problems are a compound of our culturally diverse society, social irresponsibility and poor living standards.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 20:49:55 GMT
I am perfectly well aware that more knife crime is committed by people from a black background. It's obvious. And guns.
It's to do with the fact black Africans are generally less socially advanced than whites.
Guns are still quite exciting whereas for white people guns are a bit old fashioned.
What I was getting at was that in the knife crime situation you could argue statistically that a biased stop and search will find more people of a certain group carrying knives.
You posted a link to arrests not results of prosecutions.
If everyone was carrying a knife and you stop 7 black people and 3 white people you will find a lot more black people with knives. Same if 50 percent of each group were carrying a knife. Or 1 percent.
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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Feb 25, 2021 20:58:27 GMT
I am perfectly well aware that more knife crime is committed by people from a black background. It's obvious. And guns. It's to do with the fact black Africans are generally less socially advanced than whites. Guns are still quite exciting whereas for white people guns are a bit old fashioned. What I was getting at was that in the knife crime situation you could argue statistically that a biased stop and search will find more people of a certain group carrying knives. You posted a link to arrests not results of prosecutions. If everyone was carrying a knife and you stop 7 black people and 3 white people you will find a lot more black people with knives. Same if 50 percent of each group were carrying a knife. Or 1 percent. Keep going, eventually you may convince yourself that you know better than a national police force, judiciary, the prison system, probation service and most of society.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 21:00:19 GMT
So they all disagree with my first sentence then do they?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 21:34:24 GMT
I am perfectly well aware that more knife crime is committed by people from a black background. It's obvious. And guns. It's to do with the fact black Africans are generally less socially advanced than whites. Guns are still quite exciting whereas for white people guns are a bit old fashioned. What I was getting at was that in the knife crime situation you could argue statistically that a biased stop and search will find more people of a certain group carrying knives. You posted a link to arrests not results of prosecutions. If everyone was carrying a knife and you stop 7 black people and 3 white people you will find a lot more black people with knives. Same if 50 percent of each group were carrying a knife. Or 1 percent. Keep going, eventually you may convince yourself that you know better than a national police force, judiciary, the prison system, probation service and most of society. Heβs probably had a few spliffs, hence the gobbledegook.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 21:44:00 GMT
Oh dear. Here we go again.
No, I don't smoke weed or do any other drugs. Yes I do have a few beers or ciders sometimes.
I have had it explained to me by a well respected member of the forum in a telephone conversation that I may come across as being stoned but I am not at all stoned.
Sorry but you are doing it again. Assumptions. You need to stop this defamation.
you are wrong !
And. Relax.
(Note to self the bloke is a knobhead -ignore).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 22:19:56 GMT
Speaking as someone who doesn't steal boats, doesn't beat his wife, and doesn't murder fish, I believe you @twat
Rog
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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Feb 25, 2021 22:26:56 GMT
Changed the subject? Off Topic.
Do you want to further deride black Africans as less socially advanced despite the fact that many will be third generation British?
Or just agree with the figures that clearly show that black persons do commit more crime and therefore should be stopped and searched more than any other ethnic group?
Are you on the sauce?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 22:33:06 GMT
Oh dear. Here we go again. No, I don't smoke weed or do any other drugs. Yes I do have a few beers or ciders sometimes. I have had it explained to me by a well respected member of the forum in a telephone conversation that I may come across as being stoned but I am not at all stoned. Sorry but you are doing it again. Assumptions. You need to stop this defamation. you are wrong ! And. Relax. (Note to self the bloke is a knobhead -ignore). The only knobhead here is you, and a pretty pathetic one at that. I dunno who vouched for you to vacate the loony bin, but I wish they hadnβt. ππ
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Post by thebfg on Feb 26, 2021 2:13:33 GMT
We've had a few serious attacks/stabbings down here and they always end up with Section 60 being activated. Whilst there may not be many arrests afterwards they do de escalate the situation and no weapons are carried afterwards.
Which in my book is a good thing. I've noticed that during the sect. 60 most comments on social media say it should be normal practice and not activated after a stabbing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 5:50:00 GMT
I dunno who vouched for you to vacate the loony bin, but I wish they hadnβt. ππ Nobody did. They locked me up and threw away the key but failed to notice it ended up in the cell with me and I was able to get out. I'm on the run from the men in white coats.
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