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Post by JohnV on Mar 5, 2021 10:25:04 GMT
Don't try bringing party politics into all things Jim ..... it comes back to bite you on the bum ......... keep personalities and parties out of a discussion and you would probably receive a lot of support.
You only bring personalities and their political party into the start of a discussion as a very obvious attempts to try and score points. Itis fairly obvious that you have no genuine interest in reforming the corrupt and wasteful practices that litter the government any government
(Remember Tony and Cherie Blair spent the equivalent in todays money of almost quarter of a million renovating the same flat)
I didn't bring party politics into it JohnV . I raised the issue. bodger turned it into party politics. As for "who voted for him" that's fair comment from me. The right wing crew raise the issue of jezzer in a disparaging way often enough. It's all about Personality with a self serving twunt like Boris. I realise he's probably an embarrassment to you. The issue really is not how much Bozzer wants to spend, it's that there has been discussion at No 10 about rattling a tin around tory voters. Will you or have you contributed. If the Blairs had done the place up with public money over and above any allowance I would say that was wrong too. No great fan of Tony Blair myself. Are you saying two wrongs make a right. This is happening now and deserves robust comment in its own right. You don't call the cartoon you posted as the opening post political ??
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Post by JohnV on Mar 5, 2021 10:27:56 GMT
try and find out where the money came from to re-decorate for Phony Tony ..... can't ? why am I not surprised
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 5, 2021 10:32:22 GMT
Maybe Rishi should be the person to declare war on China for its man made virus that has destroyed the West's economies. You can't mention China and Covid together, it's racist. You can however refer to the Kent variant, South African variant, Brazilian variant etc., that's not racist. You can't question the logic behind this apparent inconsistency because to do so is racist.
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Post by Jim on Mar 5, 2021 10:51:27 GMT
try and find out where the money came from to re-decorate for Phony Tony ..... can't ? why am I not surprised Until you can, then surmise all you want. Good job you aren't a Judge. Bugger the evidence, hang em high. You are demonstrating the mental aptitude and reasoning of a Fox.
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Post by Jim on Mar 5, 2021 10:55:05 GMT
I didn't bring party politics into it JohnV . I raised the issue. bodger turned it into party politics. As for "who voted for him" that's fair comment from me. The right wing crew raise the issue of jezzer in a disparaging way often enough. It's all about Personality with a self serving twunt like Boris. I realise he's probably an embarrassment to you. The issue really is not how much Bozzer wants to spend, it's that there has been discussion at No 10 about rattling a tin around tory voters. Will you or have you contributed. If the Blairs had done the place up with public money over and above any allowance I would say that was wrong too. No great fan of Tony Blair myself. Are you saying two wrongs make a right. This is happening now and deserves robust comment in its own right. You don't call the cartoon you posted as the opening post political ?? Ha, so you want a country where cartoons of our great leaders aren't allowed? Especially ones that touch a nerve. How does one comment on the whims and fancies of any politician without it being political. You need a jobsworths cap and uniform John, "Move along, Move along, nothing to see here".
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Post by JohnV on Mar 5, 2021 12:38:16 GMT
You don't call the cartoon you posted as the opening post political ?? Ha, so you want a country where cartoons of our great leaders aren't allowed? Especially ones that touch a nerve. How does one comment on the whims and fancies of any politician without it being political. You need a jobsworths cap and uniform John, "Move along, Move along, nothing to see here". where did I say that? you really ought to read what people actually say and not just react automaticlly
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Post by Jim on Mar 5, 2021 12:58:58 GMT
Ha, so you want a country where cartoons of our great leaders aren't allowed? Especially ones that touch a nerve. How does one comment on the whims and fancies of any politician without it being political. You need a jobsworths cap and uniform John, "Move along, Move along, nothing to see here". where did I say that? you really ought to read what people actually say and not just react automaticlly You said its the cartoon that's political and I shouldn't make political posts.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 5, 2021 13:27:17 GMT
where did I say that? you really ought to read what people actually say and not just react automaticlly You said its the cartoon that's political and I shouldn't make political posts. The cartoon is without doubt Party Political that cannot be denied. You started off, as per normal on a party political line not a general political line .... from now on CBA
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Post by Jim on Mar 5, 2021 13:35:09 GMT
You said its the cartoon that's political and I shouldn't make political posts. The cartoon is without doubt Party Political that cannot be denied. You started off, as per normal on a party political line not a general political line .... from now on CBA FFS John, when was a cartoon about feckless politicians not party political. Remember Hogarth from the penny sheets of your youth? So show me a few cartoons about politicians that aren't political. Post what you want, cartoon wise, about whoever, if it's a good gag I'll appreciate the wit of it, even if it's about our great god Jezzer. FYI I enjoyed the Max Headroom designation the other day. Don't be so po faced. If the wind changes you'll look like a cats bum.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 5, 2021 13:58:50 GMT
The cartoon is without doubt Party Political that cannot be denied. You started off, as per normal on a party political line not a general political line .... from now on CBA FFS John, when was a cartoon about feckless politicians not party political. Remember Hogarth from the penny sheets of your youth? So show me a few cartoons about politicians that aren't political. Post what you want, cartoon wise, about whoever, if it's a good gag I'll appreciate the wit of it, even if it's about our great god Jezzer. FYI I enjoyed the Max Headroom designation the other day. Don't be so po faced. If the wind changes you'll look like a cats bum. Jim your posts are almost invariably party political .... if they weren't this time, I'm gobsmacked and when I pick my jaw up off the ground I will apologise.
If you wish a serious non party discussion about the financing of government homes then I would be happy to join in .... but a satirical cartoon of a sitting Prime minister is not a sensible way to start it
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Post by bodger on Mar 5, 2021 17:11:53 GMT
"The Chancellor deciding who is going to foot the bill for all the taxpayers’ money he’s splurging on “Covid support”. One things for sure, if anyone is going to suffer financially in the long term, it ain’t going to be him. This is also likely to be the thin end of a steeply ramped wedge with another budget due this Autumn when the slimy bastard will likely start to really hammer it home. Rishi wants to push us up the league table of tax v GDP* and get us further away from the USA at 24% and nearer the heady heights of Denmark at 46%. A paltry 33% just isn’t good enough for this ex Goldman Sachs man. The good news is the magic money tree has now been extended to become a magic money forest. But the bad news is you are all going to have to pay for planting it. In case you missed the details this is where the pain will start: Personal income tax allowance frozen from next year. 40% income tax band frozen from next year. Corporation tax up from 19% to 25% (so much for using Brexit to cut tax for domiciled companies to compete with the EU and attract more investment in). And… your Council Tax is likely to ramp up 5% as well this year (only 4 times the rate of inflation – better than the 200% increase that is waiting for some of you at the National Property Tax end of the wedge though!)."
Pain ??
Considering the debt that has built up the budget seems relatively painless. Can you imagine what the budget would have been like if the Corbynistas had been in charge?
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 6, 2021 16:06:37 GMT
"The Chancellor deciding who is going to foot the bill for all the taxpayers’ money he’s splurging on “Covid support”. One things for sure, if anyone is going to suffer financially in the long term, it ain’t going to be him. This is also likely to be the thin end of a steeply ramped wedge with another budget due this Autumn when the slimy bastard will likely start to really hammer it home. Rishi wants to push us up the league table of tax v GDP* and get us further away from the USA at 24% and nearer the heady heights of Denmark at 46%. A paltry 33% just isn’t good enough for this ex Goldman Sachs man. The good news is the magic money tree has now been extended to become a magic money forest. But the bad news is you are all going to have to pay for planting it. In case you missed the details this is where the pain will start: Personal income tax allowance frozen from next year. 40% income tax band frozen from next year. Corporation tax up from 19% to 25% (so much for using Brexit to cut tax for domiciled companies to compete with the EU and attract more investment in). And… your Council Tax is likely to ramp up 5% as well this year (only 4 times the rate of inflation – better than the 200% increase that is waiting for some of you at the National Property Tax end of the wedge though!)."
Pain ??
Considering the debt that has built up the budget seems relatively painless. Can you imagine what the budget would have been like if the Corbynistas had been in charge?
Indeed. Sir Keir was moaning about the 5% council tax increase the other day, saying it would hit 'hard working families, struggling because of Covid'. Presumably he's forgotten about the last time his party were in power, when council tax more than doubled during their reign.
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