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Post by ormeliteeve on Oct 5, 2021 19:42:54 GMT
Our sea toilet (on a sailing boat) has two sea cocks. The sea cocks need to be in the open position for the toilet to operate. One is for flushing out the waste, the other for pulling in sea water. It works on a vacuum principle. If you post a pic of yours with the connections, some smart people on here may be able to figure it out for you (not me, I am thick) Ah, perhaps herein lies the problem then. I haven’t dared turn that tap on yet because I’m not entirely sure what it does. The previous owner told me he had never touched that tap (but then he also said he has never used the toilet nor did he know how it works) I’ll take some photos at the weekend and maybe someone will be able to work it out. … And I’m sure that’s not true! As a 30 year old girl with a 56 year old boat, I’m not sure I’ve ever felt more out of my depth but eventually I’ll learn.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2021 19:49:22 GMT
If a sea toilet, you could catch at the outlet and sell to vegetarians as sausages?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2021 19:49:28 GMT
No way. 10:1 for sure. And even if it was designed with a higher ratio, it would be very wise to add extra. ETA I know it's a bit nerdy but what type spark plug does it use? What makes you think it should be using 10:1 mixture? It says 20:1 in the manual but maybe it’s wise to increase oil ratio now the engine is 56 years old? As for the spark plug, I haven’t yet removed it because it’s been working well. In the manual, it says it’s either a 14mm or 18mm. I’ll check tomorrow and get back to you on that. 😊 Cool. Two-stroke engines rely on the petroil mixture not only for primary lubrication but also to maintain crankcase pressure vital to the combustion process. Over time the clearance between the crankshaft and the crankcase widens thus lowering the pressure, but can be compensated for to a degree by the use of a heavier petroil mixture than is specified. However I would want to test the compression before leaping to conclusions. I notice that Stuart Turner still has an 'agent' in Henley-on-Thames so I'm sure you will likely make his or her acquaintance if you haven't already. But I have a small selection of original NOS plugs which may be of the original type fitted. While there are modern equivalents, the older obsolete types are often better.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2021 19:52:56 GMT
Our sea toilet (on a sailing boat) has two sea cocks. The sea cocks need to be in the open position for the toilet to operate. One is for flushing out the waste, the other for pulling in sea water. It works on a vacuum principle. If you post a pic of yours with the connections, some smart people on here may be able to figure it out for you (not me, I am thick) Ah, perhaps herein lies the problem then. I haven’t dared turn that tap on yet because I’m not entirely sure what it does. The previous owner told me he had never touched that tap (but then he also said he has never used the toilet nor did he know how it works) I’ll take some photos at the weekend and maybe someone will be able to work it out. … And I’m sure that’s not true! As a 30 year old girl with a 56 year old boat, I’m not sure I’ve ever felt more out of my depth but eventually I’ll learn. Yes, please post some pics. As much as there is a lot of in fighting between the regulars here, they will ALL help out with any expertise they have. If you follow the pipes from the toilet though, they should give you a good indication on its operation. It will either be set up to pump waste overboard (via a sea cock), or to a holding tank, or it may even have a diverter valve to select between the two. The flush water will likely come from outside (via another seacock), but may come from an internal fresh water tank. No two boats are the same in my experience, and each will be a learning curve with their own systems installed, but hopefully a fun learning curve,
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Post by JohnV on Oct 6, 2021 6:30:14 GMT
My Ormelite (and the only other one I have had a good crawl over) had a moulded in watertank of a surprisingly large capacity under the Fwd cabin. with the waterpump installed under the first cabin sole (floor) panel but it would make sense for the flush water (if taken from the canal/river) to be taken from the engine supply after it's weed filter, otherwise another filter and hole in the hull would be needed.
As has been said photos are what is needed ("a" in particular seems to have an almost encyclopedic knowledge of older small boat parts and may well recognize it)
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Post by JohnV on Oct 6, 2021 15:45:28 GMT
Thought this might interest you, it's a laminated magazine cutting and an advert ....... the picture is of Shapfell at the IWA Ely National festival in 1973
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Post by ormeliteeve on Oct 6, 2021 18:55:27 GMT
Today I spent the afternoon inspecting the toilet. The chrome pump has embossed lettering ‘whale non-choke pump. Munster, Simms and Sons ltd, made in Northern Ireland’. The seals have gone but with a bit of research and/or some inexpensive trial and error, I should be able to buy some more. The sea cock I mentioned before definitely leads to the toilet and on closer inspection after I got rid of the grime it actually says ‘Blakes’ on the sea cock handle. I guess this doesn’t necessarily mean the toilet is a Blakes, just that the handle is. The toilet hasn’t got any writing on it at all at I could find.
I took some photos but how do I upload them? They’re on my iPad so I don’t have a url or web address for them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2021 18:57:55 GMT
Today I spent the afternoon inspecting the toilet. The chrome pump has embossed lettering ‘whale non-choke pump. Munster, Simms and Sons ltd, made in Northern Ireland’. The seals have gone but with a bit of research and/or some inexpensive trial and error, I should be able to buy some more. The sea cock I mentioned before definitely leads to the toilet and on closer inspection after I got rid of the grime it actually says ‘Blakes’ on the sea cock handle. I guess this doesn’t necessarily mean the toilet is a Blakes, just that the handle is. The toilet hasn’t got any writing on it at all at I could find.
I took some photos but how do I upload them? They’re on my iPad so I don’t have a url or web address for them.
Try this postimages.org/
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2021 18:58:58 GMT
Today I spent the afternoon inspecting the toilet. The chrome pump has embossed lettering ‘whale non-choke pump. Munster, Simms and Sons ltd, made in Northern Ireland’. The seals have gone but with a bit of research and/or some inexpensive trial and error, I should be able to buy some more. The sea cock I mentioned before definitely leads to the toilet and on closer inspection after I got rid of the grime it actually says ‘Blakes’ on the sea cock handle. I guess this doesn’t necessarily mean the toilet is a Blakes, just that the handle is. The toilet hasn’t got any writing on it at all at I could find.
I took some photos but how do I upload them? They’re on my iPad so I don’t have a url or web address for them.
You need a third party hosting site eg imgbb.com/
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Post by kris on Oct 6, 2021 19:00:21 GMT
I’d recommend postimages.org
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2021 19:02:26 GMT
Totally upload them. Use this website - imgbb.com (other are available) and then right-click on the image to copy the 'image address' to post them on the forum. Screenshot in a moment to show you where to paste it.
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Post by ormeliteeve on Oct 6, 2021 19:03:46 GMT
My Ormelite (and the only other one I have had a good crawl over) had a moulded in watertank of a surprisingly large capacity under the Fwd cabin. with the waterpump installed under the first cabin sole (floor) panel but it would make sense for the flush water (if taken from the canal/river) to be taken from the engine supply after it's weed filter, otherwise another filter and hole in the hull would be needed. As has been said photos are what is needed ("a" in particular seems to have an almost encyclopedic knowledge of older small boat parts and may well recognize it) There is a water tank in the forward cabin, under the middle of the bed area. Mine looks to be galvanised metal on the outside. I can hear that it’s empty but there’s a break in the pipe so that needs reconnecting before I fill it up. Again, I took a photo but can’t find how to upload it. Shapfell looks beautiful at Ely, mine is moored very close to there. The advert was interesting, mine must have been much before that advert because I don’t have a fridge, hot water or (I don’t think) pumped cold water either. There’s a lever next to the kitchen sink which I believe pumps the water through from the tank.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2021 19:22:32 GMT
Totally upload them. Use this website - imgbb.com (other are available) and then right-click on the image to copy the 'image address' to post them on the forum. Screenshot in a moment to show you where to paste it. So click this button and then paste the image address here
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Post by ormeliteeve on Oct 6, 2021 20:16:35 GMT
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Post by ormeliteeve on Oct 6, 2021 20:20:46 GMT
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