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Post by thebfg on Oct 7, 2021 20:50:52 GMT
Gazza, I’m haven’t properly attempted the open the Blake’s sea cock yet (and I won’t be attempting it until she’s out of the water now) but I know the previous owner never ever turned it so it’s a fair bet that it’s seized right now. Hopefully it will free off with enough use and some well overdue maintenance. She’s definitely coming out next year, hopefully as soon as it’s warm enough next year to anti foul it and generally check for any impending disasters. I don’t know when it was last out, and to be honest, the current anti fouling doesn’t look that bad, but now I know about the toilet, it’s coming out for sure. I live on a wide beam and the only hole in the hull below water level is where the prop shaft is - the ormelite has at least four holes through the hull below the waterline that I know of. I’ll let you know when I have a date for getting her out, you’d be more than welcome to come have a look. 😊 If you want someone to help guide you, @gazza is your man.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2021 21:17:37 GMT
Gazza, I’m haven’t properly attempted the open the Blake’s sea cock yet (and I won’t be attempting it until she’s out of the water now) but I know the previous owner never ever turned it so it’s a fair bet that it’s seized right now. Hopefully it will free off with enough use and some well overdue maintenance. She’s definitely coming out next year, hopefully as soon as it’s warm enough next year to anti foul it and generally check for any impending disasters. I don’t know when it was last out, and to be honest, the current anti fouling doesn’t look that bad, but now I know about the toilet, it’s coming out for sure. I live on a wide beam and the only hole in the hull below water level is where the prop shaft is - the ormelite has at least four holes through the hull below the waterline that I know of. I’ll let you know when I have a date for getting her out, you’d be more than welcome to come have a look. 😊 If you want someone to help guide you, @gazza is your man. ☺️ How’s that old van of yours doing? 👍
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Post by thebfg on Oct 8, 2021 1:08:10 GMT
If you want someone to help guide you, @gazza is your man. ☺️ How’s that old van of yours doing? 👍 Poorly. One of the cylinders in the rear drum is leaking. Coming of the motorway approaching traffic lights was fun when my foot hit the brake pedal and right to the floor. Handbrake saved the day. I'll strip it down at the weekend and order a new one. Apart from that it's doing fine. Got a slight niggle but think I just need to bleed the cooling system a bit better. Then I do need to start on the inside.
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Post by ormeliteeve on Oct 9, 2021 13:34:40 GMT
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Post by ormeliteeve on Oct 9, 2021 13:52:19 GMT
This morning, I took up the toilet floor panel to examine the bilge under the toilet. It actually all looks completely dry under there (at the moment) but Tony is right about the toilet. With a powerful torch, I could see the river bed beneath the boat. What a scary way to make a toilet. The toilet will be replaced when the boat is out of the water for something less stinky and less sink-y. It won’t be as period or original but it would help me sleep a whole lot better.
I also removed all the tarpaulins covering the boat to check for any areas of rot or damage which need to be addressed that I wasn’t already aware of. Luckily, the port side is in about the same condition as the starboard side so there were no nasty or unexpected shocks. There’s a terrible repair in front of the sliding side door which will be replaced, the port side has rotted around the forward bedroom window so that will also need replacing. The rear deck has had a previous repair but now about half of the rear deck needs to be replaced again. It might be better and easier to replace the whole rear deck instead of working around old repairs. The starboard side panel is completely rotten and needs replacing, it’s about the worst area of rot on the boat. The roof is in great condition except for a small area of the sliding roof which needs to be cut out and replaced. I’m going to epoxy all the new wood to hopefully give her a longer life before she needs anymore major repairs.
I’m under no illusion that she needs a lot of work but I’ve loved her for years and I’m certain that with a lot of woodwork, a general restoration and some overdue maintenance, she will be returned to her former glory and I’ll be able to love her for many more years to come.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2021 14:24:08 GMT
That toilet is great.
I can understand replacing it but it's a really nice item. I hope you find a good home for it.
Being 'out of the bottom' it won't have the smell problem of the holding tank type but it does seem a bit risky and probably good to get a couple of plates made up with same bolt holes and bolt one each side of hull with a load of sikaflex.
Or glass fibre matting over the hole. It is quite a large hole so would want to be done properly.
I'd be tempted by brass or aluminium plates laser cut by someone like lasermaster.co.uk
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Post by patty on Oct 9, 2021 18:36:16 GMT
This morning, I took up the toilet floor panel to examine the bilge under the toilet. It actually all looks completely dry under there (at the moment) but Tony is right about the toilet. With a powerful torch, I could see the river bed beneath the boat. What a scary way to make a toilet. The toilet will be replaced when the boat is out of the water for something less stinky and less sink-y. It won’t be as period or original but it would help me sleep a whole lot better. I also removed all the tarpaulins covering the boat to check for any areas of rot or damage which need to be addressed that I wasn’t already aware of. Luckily, the port side is in about the same condition as the starboard side so there were no nasty or unexpected shocks. There’s a terrible repair in front of the sliding side door which will be replaced, the port side has rotted around the forward bedroom window so that will also need replacing. The rear deck has had a previous repair but now about half of the rear deck needs to be replaced again. It might be better and easier to replace the whole rear deck instead of working around old repairs. The starboard side panel is completely rotten and needs replacing, it’s about the worst area of rot on the boat. The roof is in great condition except for a small area of the sliding roof which needs to be cut out and replaced. I’m going to epoxy all the new wood to hopefully give her a longer life before she needs anymore major repairs. I’m under no illusion that she needs a lot of work but I’ve loved her for years and I’m certain that with a lot of woodwork, a general restoration and some overdue maintenance, she will be returned to her former glory and I’ll be able to love her for many more years to come. I hope u succeed please keep updating..thank you
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Post by Trina on Oct 9, 2021 19:41:34 GMT
That's one fab looking boat.😁
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2021 0:07:49 GMT
The laser-cut plate thing sounds expensive but, if you had the things in your hand, I should think the job could be sorted in an afternoon. A more usual approach would be to attach a plywood backing plate, another piece of ply cut to the shape of the hole, and probably an exterior face plate to create a 'sandwich' all bound up in glass and resin. The materials are fairly cheap. But no-one would say it isn't messy. Speaking of 'not cheap', there are all kinds of marine ply. The stuff down the local timber yard isn't likely to be the best. This lot offer something better: www.robbins.co.uk/products-prices/marine/marine-plywood-panels/I absolutely guarantee that the more expensive quality boards will be equivalent to the original spec. I'm sure I read that they will cut pieces to whatever shape on request, raising the interesting option of first making a hardboard template (nice and cheap, easy to work and no tears if you make a mistake) for cabin-side replacements. If you get busy with a jig-saw, experiment with various cutters before you go for it. Fine-toothed items are going to be the best. Personally I often find that cutters ostensibly for metal produce a nice neat job on both sides with no splinters. I've been trying to identify the engine model from that pic but have failed to reach a conclusion.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2021 1:50:58 GMT
I think it's a P55 as @gazza suggested earlier.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2021 2:58:47 GMT
But nah he said such was found in other examples. However there are more similarities than differences between these two pics.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2021 3:30:17 GMT
It seems likely it is a P55.
Not noticed it before but Stuart Turner have used the number 5 twice to indicate the HP of each cylinder rather than use a cumulative number.
I think it's about 10hp which according to my slide rule is 5+5.
I wonder why I was not called the P10.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2021 5:23:11 GMT
In any case having a petrol inboard engine in a boat has always struck me as a VBI on account of the biggabaddaboom factor. Still, it apparently works and starts readily enough.
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Post by JohnV on Oct 10, 2021 6:30:20 GMT
bilge blowers are an essential to prevent Bababoom ..... Shapfell had one and it looked like it might have been original.
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Post by ormeliteeve on Oct 10, 2021 8:17:49 GMT
I believe it’s a P55ME, 8 hp. That’s the engine manual it came with anyway and it seems to bear a lot of similarities.
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