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Post by pearley on Dec 29, 2021 23:42:32 GMT
Yes we have a good licence for next year. Also think we need an Anglian pass. Cambridge just seemed like a place to head for. Is there a reason not to? You won’t need an Anglian pass Other registration options Gold Licence You can buy a Gold Licence which lets you use all Environment Agency and Canal & River Trust waterways. Gold LIcences are only available to buy through the Canal & River Trust. www.gov.uk/government/publications/anglian-waterways-registration-charges/anglian-boat-registration-charges-1-april-2021-to-31-march-2022The Cam isn’t my favourite tbh, between the rowers and the liveaboards with no guarantee of a mooring once you reach the City I give it a wide birth by boat. It’s a nice enough place to spend a day, hence why train or bus is preferable; forget going by car, getting on for Oxford levels of intolerance and inconvenience to the motorist 🧐 To visit Cambridge he will need an Anglian Pass. But agree with you as to is it worth it. We've had some lovely days on the boat in Cambridge but whether it's with paying £100 for the privilege of not finding a mooring space? Maybe better to go by bus from Ely or St Ives.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2021 23:51:09 GMT
You won’t need an Anglian pass Other registration options Gold Licence You can buy a Gold Licence which lets you use all Environment Agency and Canal & River Trust waterways. Gold LIcences are only available to buy through the Canal & River Trust. www.gov.uk/government/publications/anglian-waterways-registration-charges/anglian-boat-registration-charges-1-april-2021-to-31-march-2022The Cam isn’t my favourite tbh, between the rowers and the liveaboards with no guarantee of a mooring once you reach the City I give it a wide birth by boat. It’s a nice enough place to spend a day, hence why train or bus is preferable; forget going by car, getting on for Oxford levels of intolerance and inconvenience to the motorist 🧐 To visit Cambridge he will need an Anglian Pass. But agree with you as to is it worth it. We've had some lovely days on the boat in Cambridge but whether it's with paying £100 for the privilege of not finding a mooring space? Maybe better to go by bus from Ely or St Ives. This is dated 1/09/21 waterways.org.uk/about-us/news/visiting-the-river-cam-too-expensive-for-many-boatersAn alternative is to buy a Gold Licence but this has considerable limitations. For example, the Gold Licence is only valid annually from January to January, so requires boaters to plan a year ahead if they want to visit. This removes any spontaneity from planning boating trips, which is part of the appeal for many.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2021 23:52:24 GMT
You won’t need an Anglian pass Other registration options Gold Licence You can buy a Gold Licence which lets you use all Environment Agency and Canal & River Trust waterways. Gold LIcences are only available to buy through the Canal & River Trust. www.gov.uk/government/publications/anglian-waterways-registration-charges/anglian-boat-registration-charges-1-april-2021-to-31-march-2022The Cam isn’t my favourite tbh, between the rowers and the liveaboards with no guarantee of a mooring once you reach the City I give it a wide birth by boat. It’s a nice enough place to spend a day, hence why train or bus is preferable; forget going by car, getting on for Oxford levels of intolerance and inconvenience to the motorist 🧐 Thanks. To be honest, Ali does the licence/navigation bits. I just do as I’m told. She has looked and as well as the gold licence we have just brought for next year, she seemed to think that we would need an Anglian pass(100 quid) as well for some parts over that way. Il pass on what you say to her... See my reply to pearley 👍
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Post by ianali on Dec 29, 2021 23:53:42 GMT
You won’t need an Anglian pass Other registration options Gold Licence You can buy a Gold Licence which lets you use all Environment Agency and Canal & River Trust waterways. Gold LIcences are only available to buy through the Canal & River Trust. www.gov.uk/government/publications/anglian-waterways-registration-charges/anglian-boat-registration-charges-1-april-2021-to-31-march-2022The Cam isn’t my favourite tbh, between the rowers and the liveaboards with no guarantee of a mooring once you reach the City I give it a wide birth by boat. It’s a nice enough place to spend a day, hence why train or bus is preferable; forget going by car, getting on for Oxford levels of intolerance and inconvenience to the motorist 🧐 To visit Cambridge he will need an Anglian Pass. But agree with you as to is it worth it. We've had some lovely days on the boat in Cambridge but whether it's with paying £100 for the privilege of not finding a mooring space? Maybe better to go by bus from Ely or St Ives. Hello, long time no see.. top of Wigan flight I think. Il need to pick you and Gazzas brains as to best route/ places to avoid I think. Cheers.
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Post by ianali on Dec 30, 2021 0:00:43 GMT
Thanks. To be honest, Ali does the licence/navigation bits. I just do as I’m told. She has looked and as well as the gold licence we have just brought for next year, she seemed to think that we would need an Anglian pass(100 quid) as well for some parts over that way. Il pass on what you say to her... See my reply to pearley 👍 It’s quite complicated working through the wording Re Anglian pass and Gold licence. I got bored, rand CRT and had a minor disagreement about their webpage info, which is incorrect. Anyway, brought the gold, can worry about passes etc come Spring. Fingers crossed we may get to say hello next year.
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Post by thebfg on Dec 30, 2021 2:13:11 GMT
@gazza link says.
"Most notably, holders of an annual Canal & River Trust (CRT) licence are not able to apply for the Anglian Pass. This means that any prospective CRT visitor wishing to visit Cambridge will need to buy three additional licences:"
What prevents a CRT licence holder from having the pass as well?
Is the word "annual" significant? E.g can a holder of a 6 month CRT licence have a pass?
Could the partner of a CRT licence holder apply for a pass for a CRT registered boat?
Seems illogical to me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2021 2:36:12 GMT
I wonder if they have had issues with people on canal boats transiting the Nene on a visitor license, arriving on the middle level and staying there and being awkward to shift. We did the fens back in the early 00s which was before the licensing came in. It was free and you just got on with it. There were very few itinerant boats permanently on that section but I think they did turn up over the years and one wonders if they all came from CRT water. Banning people with a CRT license seems to indicate someone draughting the original wording had a bee in their bonnet about the origins of "problem craft". The late NigelMoore knew a lot about this and another tb member erivers also.
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Post by patty on Dec 30, 2021 7:04:30 GMT
Or get a tent and sleeping bag and have a go at Wainwright's Coast to Coast Walk, across the Lake District and along Swaledale to Richmond, and on to Robin Hood's Bay / Whitby (trains from Rugby). No, I used to do that sort of thing in my younger days but it would involve considerably more effort and discomfort than I am willing to abide now that I am in the Autumn of my years. The beauty of narrowboating is that it is like walking, only without the walking. So I'll do that instead. Also on a Narrowboat u don't have to carry all the gear on your back.. Thats my problem..love walking but I have significant back problems which means rutsack on back adventures are out for now
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2021 7:34:01 GMT
@gazza link says. "Most notably, holders of an annual Canal & River Trust (CRT) licence are not able to apply for the Anglian Pass. This means that any prospective CRT visitor wishing to visit Cambridge will need to buy three additional licences:" What prevents a CRT licence holder from having the pass as well? Is the word "annual" significant? E.g can a holder of a 6 month CRT licence have a pass? Could the partner of a CRT licence holder apply for a pass for a CRT registered boat? Seems illogical to me. I missed that bit!
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Post by JohnV on Dec 30, 2021 9:14:28 GMT
I did the moor and bus route to Cambridge, the conservators section of the Cam was the only bit on the whole of the Great Ouse system I missed out. Just too much hassle and too much expense.
My desire to explore every inch of the system plus getting past all the limits of navigation didn't include spending that much extra
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Post by pearley on Dec 30, 2021 9:57:53 GMT
There seems to be a lot of confusion about the Anglian Pass. It is only available to holders of EA, CRT Gold, Cam Conservators or MLC licences. If you have a standard CRT licence and are using a visitor licence to cruise the Nene then you are not able to buy an Anglian Pass but you can buy a short term licence for the MLs. The Cam Commissioners no longer make a visitor licence available. More info here goba.org.uk/a-guide-for-visitors-to-the-east/We sold our narrowboat in June and now live in a widebeam at Hartford and hope we shall see plenty of you over here an the Great Ouse next year.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2021 10:31:59 GMT
There seems to be a lot of confusion about the Anglian Pass. It is only available to holders of EA, CRT Gold, Cam Conservators or MLC licences. If you have a standard CRT licence and are using a visitor licence to cruise the Nene then you are not able to buy an Anglian Pass but you can buy a short term licence for the MLs. The Cam Commissioners no longer make a visitor licence available. More info here goba.org.uk/a-guide-for-visitors-to-the-east/We sold our narrowboat in June and now live in a widebeam at Hartford and hope we shall see plenty of you over here an the Great Ouse next year. Ah, I see Far cry from the promised reciprocal agreement when the MLC bill was going through parliament! I am hoping for a return to the Great Ouse in ‘22, that will depend on how far I progress with the house over the next few months and the perennial issue of bloody Covid 🧐
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2021 10:37:48 GMT
I wonder if they have had issues with people on canal boats transiting the Nene on a visitor license, arriving on the middle level and staying there and being awkward to shift. We did the fens back in the early 00s which was before the licensing came in. It was free and you just got on with it. There were very few itinerant boats permanently on that section but I think they did turn up over the years and one wonders if they all came from CRT water. Banning people with a CRT license seems to indicate someone draughting the original wording had a bee in their bonnet about the origins of "problem craft". The late NigelMoore knew a lot about this and another tb member erivers also. Late 2000’s saw C&RT Hound some piss takers off the GU onto the Nene, they hung around Abington lock area for a few years then the EA got their act together, the unregistered, frankly dangerous boats made their way down the nene onto the ML during 2010/11. A couple of boats are on North Bank at Peterborough the rest disappeared on the ML. As far as I know there is no conspiracy, just a dreadful and expensive registration scheme that has seen everyone’s boating costs increase.
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Post by ianali on Dec 30, 2021 10:38:29 GMT
The whole licensing system seems over complicated. No surprise there I guess. We almost put off buying a gold for next year, covid etc may cause havoc again, who knows? That though, would mean 3 years of proper boating/living lost.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2021 10:49:12 GMT
The whole licensing system seems over complicated. No surprise there I guess. We almost put off buying a gold for next year, covid etc may cause havoc again, who knows? That though, would mean 3 years of proper boating/living lost. Yup, we last had a full summer on the Great Ouse in 2018; we’d normally visit once if not twice a year prior to that, for 2019 we decided to have a year on our river and return in 2020 - that didn’t turn out to be the wisest of choices! On the plus side I’ve spent way less on petrol for the car and diesel for the boat since 2018!
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