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Post by dogless on Aug 7, 2023 8:56:01 GMT
Living without an inverter, air-fryer, electric kettle, toaster, television, and other electrical tools I have no need for more power, but understand others see these things as necessary. It was just an interest in understanding what the 'drop-in' system was, thanks. Rog Yes I suppose for low power users, it’s not really worth the hassle. I bet your solar panels have made a big difference to your life? They will also prolong the life of your lead acid batteries, depending on looking after them of course. Solar and new batteries two years ago this month and the batteries have never been below 12.52v which is surprising. In the past I would by now had have to be looking at changing. Rog
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 7, 2023 8:56:40 GMT
Since we are having one of you style of conversations I will just say you are talking utter bullshit. There, that has raised the tone of the conversation. Did I mention bullshit? I might have forgotten to, but anyway you are full of it. I thought you might accuse me of being homophobic? You do know stuff nick, where you fuck up is getting on your high horse and thinking nobody else knows anything and your the only one who is right. There is more than one way to skin a cat. Ps I’ll always call out bullshit when I smell it. You didn’t answer my question, what’s complicated about having a system that either charges the lithium or not? Bullshit. Apart from anything else, your system doesn’t work yet. Probably never will. Whereas mine has been fully operational for 2 years. ”Either charges the lithium or not” does that mean it either works or does not (probably not), or does it mean that you have to manually intervene to turn it on and off at the appropriate SoC that you have hopefully remembered to notice? Oh and how do you know the SoC? Surely not by some magic electronic thingy? That will be so unreliable (according to you).
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Post by kris on Aug 7, 2023 9:01:48 GMT
Yes I suppose for low power users, it’s not really worth the hassle. I bet your solar panels have made a big difference to your life? They will also prolong the life of your lead acid batteries, depending on looking after them of course. Solar and new batteries two years ago this month and the batteries have never been below 12.52v which is surprising. In the past I would by now had have to be looking at changing. Rog with a bit of luck you should get about twice the life out of them.
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Post by kris on Aug 7, 2023 9:06:38 GMT
I thought you might accuse me of being homophobic? You do know stuff nick, where you fuck up is getting on your high horse and thinking nobody else knows anything and your the only one who is right. There is more than one way to skin a cat. Ps I’ll always call out bullshit when I smell it. You didn’t answer my question, what’s complicated about having a system that either charges the lithium or not? Bullshit. Apart from anything else, your system doesn’t work yet. Probably never will. Whereas mine has been fully operational for 2 years. ”Either chargers the lithium or not” does that mean it either works or does not, or does it mean that you have to manually intervene to turn it on and off at the appropriate SoC that you have hopefully remembered to notice? I have to manually intervene with my engine before I start it, does this mean it’s installed incorrectly? The reason my system isn’t working is because I’ve got enough solar to charge the lithiums most of the year and don’t need to use an internal combustion engine for power generation for most of the year. The only reason I want to be able to charge from the alternators is a back up to the generator I use in winter. It will allow me to not have to carry a petrol generator. But I’ve got a lot more interesting things to do, bye. You do get upset when your self declared authority gets challenged don’t you?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2023 9:19:44 GMT
I have the facilty to charge mine from the alternator, but seldom use it. The solar keeps them full for the majority of the year, and during the darkest winter months, they are charged via the genny whilst cooking, (roughly one hour). It's far from being a "bodge up", it's just an alternative. I'd always buy with a built in bms, pay the extra and get them from a reputable company.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 7, 2023 9:28:56 GMT
Bullshit. Apart from anything else, your system doesn’t work yet. Probably never will. Whereas mine has been fully operational for 2 years. ”Either chargers the lithium or not” does that mean it either works or does not, or does it mean that you have to manually intervene to turn it on and off at the appropriate SoC that you have hopefully remembered to notice? I have to manually intervene with my engine before I start it, does this mean it’s installed incorrectly? The reason my system isn’t working is because I’ve got enough solar to charge the lithiums most of the year and don’t need to use an internal combustion engine for power generation for most of the year. The only reason I want to be able to charge from the alternators is a back up to the generator I use in winter. It will allow me to not have to carry a petrol generator. But I’ve got a lot more interesting things to do, bye. You do get upset when your self declared authority gets challenged don’t you? Bullshit. It doesn’t work yet but you can’t resist crowing about it as if you actually had any idea what you were talking about. And you call me arrogant! Having to control the engine manually is pretty obvious, and you are unlikely to leave it running without realising it. It is a certainty of human nature that at some point you will be distracted and forget to stop charging the Li. And then I’ll larf! The most amusing thing is that you don’t have a working Li charging system, you don’t really know what you are talking about and when I explain it, all you can say is “bullshit”. The typical reaction of someone of limited intelligence who lives on their own.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 7, 2023 9:29:42 GMT
I have the facilty to charge mine from the alternator, but seldom use it. The solar keeps them full for the majority of the year, and during the darkest winter months, they are charged via the genny whilst cooking, (roughly one hour). It's far from being a "bodge up", it's just an alternative. I'd always buy with a built in bms, pay the extra and get them from a reputable company. Do you have LA is parallel?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2023 9:31:40 GMT
I have the facilty to charge mine from the alternator, but seldom use it. The solar keeps them full for the majority of the year, and during the darkest winter months, they are charged via the genny whilst cooking, (roughly one hour). It's far from being a "bodge up", it's just an alternative. I'd always buy with a built in bms, pay the extra and get them from a reputable company. Do you have LA is parallel? Yep.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 7, 2023 9:45:42 GMT
Do you have LA is parallel? Yep. I think this is likely to become problematic for the BSS in the future. Not because I personally think there is any sort of safety issue, but the BSS are looking to regulate it and one thing they have noticed is that often, Li battery manufacturers have a clause that says “don’t mix with batteries of other chemistries” or some such. So in BSS land installing a “highly dangerous” bit of kit directly in conflict with the installation instructions, is something they can latch on to.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 7, 2023 9:48:50 GMT
I have the facilty to charge mine from the alternator, but seldom use it. The solar keeps them full for the majority of the year, and during the darkest winter months, they are charged via the genny whilst cooking, (roughly one hour). It's far from being a "bodge up", it's just an alternative. I'd always buy with a built in bms, pay the extra and get them from a reputable company. On the bodge thing, a bodge is something that does sort of work, but isn’t done in the way a competent professional would do it. I don’t think you’ll find a professional installation using the LA in parallel and long wire to avoid overloading the alternator technique. This is why I say it is a bodge. Bodges are not necessarily bad things, just things done not in the way a professional would do it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2023 9:53:24 GMT
I think this is likely to become problematic for the BSS in the future. Not because I personally think there is any sort of safety issue, but the BSS are looking to regulate it and one thing they have noticed is that often, Li battery manufacturers have a clause that says “don’t mix with batteries of other chemistries” or some such. So in BSS land installing a “highly dangerous” bit of kit directly in conflict with the installation instructions, is something they can latch on to. It will only become problematic if people with little or no knowledge try to fathom it out. As it happens, I think the bss has more pressing issues, given the fact they are facing extinction.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 7, 2023 9:55:34 GMT
I think this is likely to become problematic for the BSS in the future. Not because I personally think there is any sort of safety issue, but the BSS are looking to regulate it and one thing they have noticed is that often, Li battery manufacturers have a clause that says “don’t mix with batteries of other chemistries” or some such. So in BSS land installing a “highly dangerous” bit of kit directly in conflict with the installation instructions, is something they can latch on to. It will only become problematic if people with little or no knowledge try to fathom it out. As it happens, I think the bss has more pressing issues, given the fact they are facing extinction. People with little or no knowledge are trying to fathom it out! I’m in NABO and they seem to have input, but I don’t think the guy in question understands the issues. Anyway, what’s the gen on BSS facing extinction?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2023 9:59:33 GMT
I have the facilty to charge mine from the alternator, but seldom use it. The solar keeps them full for the majority of the year, and during the darkest winter months, they are charged via the genny whilst cooking, (roughly one hour). It's far from being a "bodge up", it's just an alternative. I'd always buy with a built in bms, pay the extra and get them from a reputable company. On the bodge thing, a bodge is something that does sort of work, but isn’t done in the way a competent professional would do it. I don’t think you’ll find a professional installation using the LA in parallel and long wire to avoid overloading the alternator technique. This is why I say it is a bodge. Bodges are not necessarily bad things, just things done not in the way a professional would do it. You're not a professional nick, and I don’t have a long wire. You're just a diy'er who enjoys controversy. This behaviour tends to let you down and often results in you're being ridiculed, if that sparks your plug, fair enough.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2023 10:01:39 GMT
It will only become problematic if people with little or no knowledge try to fathom it out. As it happens, I think the bss has more pressing issues, given the fact they are facing extinction. I’m in NABO 😂😂😂 more fool you 😂😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2023 10:03:40 GMT
It will only become problematic if people with little or no knowledge try to fathom it out. As it happens, I think the bss has more pressing issues, given the fact they are facing extinction. Anyway, what’s the gen on BSS facing extinction? Surely you would know? Being in NABO. Oh, of course, nabo are always 3 years late 🤣
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