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Post by dogless on Feb 6, 2024 10:27:07 GMT
It was explained to me that it is more likely in boats that don't use diesel much ... i.e. it sits in the tank for long periods. Less likely to occur in a boat regularly using diesel and filling up with fresh.
Rog
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Post by ianali on Feb 6, 2024 11:04:54 GMT
It was explained to me that it is more likely in boats that don't use diesel much ... i.e. it sits in the tank for long periods. Less likely to occur in a boat regularly using diesel and filling up with fresh. Rog Use it or lose it. I spoke with a chap a couple of weeks ago that was having his diesel ‘polished’. He told me he was surprised when his engine wouldn’t start. He explained he always left his batteries on charge and kept a full fuel tank. Wouldn’t start, called engineer and he diagnosed dirty diesel… I asked how often he ran the engine and the answer was not since pre covid. I’d guess more boats than was the norm are being ran less often. |
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Post by tonyb on Feb 6, 2024 11:27:19 GMT
It was explained to me that it is more likely in boats that don't use diesel much ... i.e. it sits in the tank for long periods. Less likely to occur in a boat regularly using diesel and filling up with fresh. Rog Use it or lose it. I spoke with a chap a couple of weeks ago that was having his diesel ‘polished’. He told me he was surprised when his engine wouldn’t start. He explained he always left his batteries on charge and kept a full fuel tank. Wouldn’t start, called engineer and he diagnosed dirty diesel… I asked how often he ran the engine and the answer was not since pre covid. I’d guess more boats than was the norm are being ran less often.
I am sure, in a non-expert way, that microbial activity has a lot to do with all the fuel problems, not just classic bug, but this one sounds more like bug than sticky diesel. We would need to see the filters and a sample of fuel from the bottom of the tank.
Water in the fuel seems to encourage the growth of the yeasts, moulds, and microbes that seem to cause the problems.
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Post by kris on Feb 6, 2024 12:08:26 GMT
Microbial corrosion is becoming a problem on inland waterways boats. There are microbes that eat into the steel hull of a boat. I first encounted this when I had my boat out of the water and rebottomed it two years ago. The microbial corrosion was worse than the wear. I talked to a professional boat surveyor about it. He told me they are increasingly seeing microbial corrosion on boats and that it’s getting worse. So I suppose these microbes are constantly evolving and constantly looking for a new niche to inhabit. The microbial problems with diesel fuel have definately occurred since the mixing of vegetable oil and other additives to diesel. Maybe I should be buying kerosene or heating oil instead of automotive fuel?
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Post by brummieboy on Feb 6, 2024 14:46:16 GMT
I think my acquaintance's boat engine was a Beta, so one of the 'newer' engines. When the incidence of bio fuel introduction into diesel became common, as an oil boiler service engineer, I noticed the incidence of fuel contamination increased in domestic fuel which is mostly kerosene. Where 35 sec (red diesel) was concerned, in mainly agricultural areas, oil suppliers were recommending additives to combat microbial growth. The dosage was extremely small, to the point where one wondered whether it could have any significant effect. Overdosage was often made, and this magnified any contamination.
I tried some of this additive in the boat, and at 50ml to 50 litres, for the first time ever I had fuel problems on my Perkins 4108M. I eventually worked it through with more regular filter changes and dilution with fresh fuel. I now use no additive except for a first fill with RedEx ucl before the start of 'the season'.
I'm not giving any opinion on RCR, just reporting their views on the subject, but I think your criticism of the Soar incident is unfair as the action they wanted to take was obstructed by moronic rubberneckers who prevented progress because of safety concerns.
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Post by on Feb 6, 2024 15:01:37 GMT
What a great term 'Moronic rubberneckers'.
One could expand it with the help of old Tony 'Worthless inconsequential moronic rubberneckers'
Whats actually going on is TikTok which is a Chinese cyber warfare tactic. They find stories and their algo rhythms make morons turn up and cause a nuisance.
This is war but not as we know it.
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Post by kris on Feb 6, 2024 15:53:46 GMT
My view of RCR is based on seeing their efforts over a few years, on various occasions. I know that it’s a national organisation but it sub contracts to local people to the actual work. So I suppose the service you get depends on their local representative.
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Post by kris on Feb 6, 2024 15:56:40 GMT
What a great term 'Moronic rubberneckers'. One could expand it with the help of old Tony 'Worthless inconsequential moronic rubberneckers' Whats actually going on is TikTok which is a Chinese cyber warfare tactic. They find stories and their algo rhythms make morons turn up and cause a nuisance. This is war but not as we know it. It is looking like tic toc is a Chinese psysological weapon. They limit their on childrens exsposure to it. |
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