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Post by Telemachus on Mar 23, 2017 17:24:45 GMT
I hate earl grey but will acknowledge and accept its existence and that some people may like it. Jolly good. I too will accept that someone who doesn't like Earl Grey is not necessarily a terrorist hell bent on murdering all our MPs and quite a few bystanders.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 17:25:29 GMT
I also hate racists And misogynists And homophobes
But more than all of those I hate Black Lesbians.
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Post by bodger on Mar 23, 2017 17:31:22 GMT
I also hate racists And misogynists And homophobes But more than all of those I hate Black Lesbians. cheeky c*nt
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Post by thebfg on Mar 23, 2017 17:32:19 GMT
Saw this and thought it was quite good and maybe appropriate
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 23, 2017 17:35:38 GMT
I have listened to some of the post mortem comments regarding yesterday and I find it so sad ref the people in the wrong place at the wrong time...a mother on her way to collect children from school and an american couple celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary..him dead and her critically injured..they will never celebrate another. The policeman just doing his duty .... one can only wonder if there had been armed police on the gates would this man have still attacked or would the known fact of a gun proved a deterrent..we shall never know. I don't know why with this subject matter and what we are dealing with certain "intelligent" people cannot just set aside personal attacks on each other.. There were posts that were blatantly racist in my opinion. When such things happen I will call them out and do as I did, try to explain rationally where they are wrong. To state that one individual should fuck off to somewhere whose culture he feels comfortable with if he doesn't like the one we have here does not come within a million miles of allocating specific attributes to a race. I thought you said you were intelligent?
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Post by tadworth on Mar 23, 2017 17:49:49 GMT
Saw this and thought it was quite good and maybe appropriate The IRA never sought to justify its crimes by relegion, the meme is wrong.
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 23, 2017 17:52:39 GMT
There were posts that were blatantly racist in my opinion. When such things happen I will call them out and do as I did, try to explain rationally where they are wrong. To state that one individual should fuck off to somewhere whose culture he feels comfortable with if he doesn't like the one we have here does not come within a million miles of allocating specific attributes to a race. I thought you said you were intelligent? I did. Well anyway the white mice told me I was. To say that the perpetrator should go back to where he came from is silly because he was born in the U.K. some 50 years ago. To say that the perpetrator should go to somewhere whose culture he feels comfortable with is a bit pointless since if he wanted to do that he'd have done it. He doesn't want to do that but to be honest I'm not totally sure what he does want to do except lash out at society. Anyway, neither of those things are racist, just a bit silly and pointless. They fail to address the real issue which is the power of indoctrination and radicalisation, probably via the Internet. I'd go so far as to say that to some extent he is a victim of radicalisation and religious extremism. In the same way that a schizophrenic who murders an innocent person because he is ill and the voices told him to, is a victim. You can rant on about going back to where he came from / where suits his ideas, but it will make zero difference because it doesn't address the actual issue. A waste of breath, but populist of course. edited to say, Did I specifically say your post was racist? Or are you just feeling guilty?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 23, 2017 18:01:24 GMT
To state that one individual should fuck off to somewhere whose culture he feels comfortable with if he doesn't like the one we have here does not come within a million miles of allocating specific attributes to a race. I thought you said you were intelligent? I'd go so far as to say that to some extent he is a victim of radicalisation and religious extremism. In the same way that a schizophrenic who murders an innocent person because he is ill and the voices told him to, is a victim. Following your rationale, since murdering anybody is an inconsiderate and illogical thing to do, then all murderers are victims. The voices in his head were what made Ian Huntley carry out the Soham murders, and while I personally don't support the death penalty, neither do I feel he is a victim who should be treated with sympathy and understanding.
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 23, 2017 18:15:34 GMT
I'd go so far as to say that to some extent he is a victim of radicalisation and religious extremism. In the same way that a schizophrenic who murders an innocent person because he is ill and the voices told him to, is a victim. Following your rationale, since murdering anybody is an inconsiderate and illogical thing to do, then all murderers are victims. The voices in his head were what made Ian Huntley carry out the Soham murders, and while I personally don't support the death penalty, neither do I feel he is a victim who should be treated with sympathy and understanding. It's a difficult area. But it is why there is a defence of diminished responsibility. Obviously if you have murdered someone due to mental illness, you shouldn't get off Scott free as you'll be at risk of doing it again. So you probably need locking up, but whilst locked up you need medical attention, not punishment. if you get a bad dose of the flu but go out and give it to a little old lady who dies from it, is that better or worse than being mentally ill and murdering the lady because the voices compelled you to? It is odd that we regard mental illness in a completely different way from physical illness. Have you ever thought of moving to the USA? They like vengeance and retribution in response to crime - that would suit your way of thinking. Anyway this guy sounds like a bad'un in general (according to his criminal record) but nevertheless the power of indoctrination shouldn't be underestimated, and to put all the blame on those who become indoctrinated is futile -bolting the stable door etc - as it won't stop the next one. Short of massacring all British citizens who are Muslim, what would you do to prevent the inevitable recurrence?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 23, 2017 18:23:46 GMT
Following your rationale, since murdering anybody is an inconsiderate and illogical thing to do, then all murderers are victims. The voices in his head were what made Ian Huntley carry out the Soham murders, and while I personally don't support the death penalty, neither do I feel he is a victim who should be treated with sympathy and understanding. Have you ever thought of moving to the USA? They like vengeance and retribution in response to crime - that would suit your way of thinking. id you miss the bit where I said "I personally don't support the death penalty"? For an intelligent person, you certainly are thick.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 18:29:33 GMT
Have you ever thought of moving to the USA? They like vengeance and retribution in response to crime - that would suit your way of thinking. id you miss the bit where I said "I personally don't support the death penalty"? For an intelligent person, you certainly are thick. He's not intelligent, he is thick. He seems to use his "persona" with the intention of attracting attention. Or to put simply, a sad old c*nt with nothing left.
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 23, 2017 18:31:24 GMT
Have you ever thought of moving to the USA? They like vengeance and retribution in response to crime - that would suit your way of thinking. id you miss the bit where I said "I personally don't support the death penalty"? For an intelligent person, you certainly are thick. But there are plenty of States that don't have the death penalty, or perhaps you are too thick to know that? You could live in one of those and bask in the very long sentences given in pretty unpleasant jails - proper punishment - without having to be concerned about a death penalty.
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 23, 2017 18:32:06 GMT
id you miss the bit where I said "I personally don't support the death penalty"? For an intelligent person, you certainly are thick. He's not intelligent, he is thick. He seems to use his "persona" with the intention of attracting attention. Or to put simply, a sad old c*nt with nothing left. We're you getting too hot under the duvet?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 23, 2017 18:36:59 GMT
id you miss the bit where I said "I personally don't support the death penalty"? For an intelligent person, you certainly are thick. But there are plenty of States that don't have the death penalty, or perhaps you are too thick to know that? You could live in one of those and bask in the very long sentences given in pretty unpleasant jails - proper punishment - without having to be concerned about a death penalty. So no different to here then? As an example, Ian Brady and Myra Hindley ended up receiving whole life tariffs. Personally I consider that to be the correct sentence. I don't consider either to be a "victim". If it was in your gift to be able to set their sentences, what would it have been?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 18:45:18 GMT
I have to say that using the name Mr Snot Gobbler significantly subtracts credibility from your comments.
Like this
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