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Post by peterboat on Apr 6, 2017 19:22:56 GMT
Generally considered to be by whom? Certainly not me, nor from my participation on this forum, many, if any, other people. My own research into this has led me to conclude that O.E.M quality filters are perfectly up to the job. What about Crossland filters? where are they made ? I know and its not anywhere close to the UK |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 6, 2017 19:27:30 GMT
What about Crossland filters? where are they made ? I know and its not anywhere close to the UK India apparently, although I would imagine that numerous parts sold by Bosch are also manufactured in Chindia nowadays. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 19:32:13 GMT
For a second time, the cheeky Indian that owns ECP purchased the name to sell to gullible people trading on the good name Crossland once had. Sogefi (an OEM aftermarket supplier) distance themselves from their former brand with good reason  Right, so basically you agree with me that not all aftermarket oil filters are made to engine manufacturers specifications. Thanks. It took a bit of "going round the houses" but we got there in the end. This was your first post. I'd say there possibly is a difference in the specification between different manufacturers, on my boat the oil filter is a paper element and there are visible differences in the construction between different makes. Unless the filters are extortionately expensive I'd stick with manufacturer's parts, at least until your engine is out of warranty because using non-manufacturer parts can void this. Read more: thunderboat.boards.net/thread/1771/right-old-telling-off?page=1#ixzz4dV18bMWYYou were talking bollocks then and haven't stopped. You do not know the difference between genuine parts, approved OEM suppliers and patern aftermarket do you. There is no reason to use a Mann filter in a VW box complete with VW price hike when you can get the same Mann filter off the same production line with no detriment to the engine or your pocket. Stick to clutching the wheel and stamping on the pedals rather than lecturing about the oily bits |
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Post by peterboat on Apr 6, 2017 19:34:14 GMT
Well, it certainly isn't bollocks that BMC 1.5 oil filters vary in construction between different manufacturers and I'll quite happily post photos of old and new next time I do an oil change. Without being funny your BMC engine is by design getting on for 70 years old was last in production many many years ago [which is where it should have stayed] so where do you think your genuine filters are coming from? I converted mine to a spin on canister after seeing the shit quality of the filers for it, would probably been better of with crumpled newspaper and cotton wool in fact, than those I looked at |
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Post by peterboat on Apr 6, 2017 19:38:06 GMT
where are they made ? I know and its not anywhere close to the UK India apparently, although I would imagine that numerous parts sold by Bosch are also manufactured in Chindia nowadays. If you are lucky its made in India! some are made in the Stans and there are a few of those |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 6, 2017 19:46:08 GMT
Well, it certainly isn't bollocks that BMC 1.5 oil filters vary in construction between different manufacturers and I'll quite happily post photos of old and new next time I do an oil change. Without being funny your BMC engine is by design getting on for 70 years old was last in production many many years ago [which is where it should have stayed] so where do you think your genuine filters are coming from? I converted mine to a spin on canister after seeing the shit quality of the filers for it, would probably been better of with crumpled newspaper and cotton wool in fact, than those I looked at But where a paper element filter is inherently superior to a canister is that you can inspect it to see what it has filtered out. Paper filters were largely replaced in car manufacture by canisters for one reason and one reason only, it's cheaper. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 19:57:37 GMT
I think my perkins p4 has a washable oil filter on it  I have not interacted with it yet. It seems too large to have an element in there but it might have. A friend who had a P3 said it might be a washable reusable one. I'm terrible about oil changes. Its something I ought to do at some point. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 20:07:53 GMT
Without being funny your BMC engine is by design getting on for 70 years old was last in production many many years ago [which is where it should have stayed] so where do you think your genuine filters are coming from? I converted mine to a spin on canister after seeing the shit quality of the filers for it, would probably been better of with crumpled newspaper and cotton wool in fact, than those I looked at But where a paper element filter is inherently superior to a canister is that you can inspect it to see what it has filtered out. Paper filters were largely replaced in car manufacture by canisters for one reason and one reason only, it's cheaper. Wrong again. Many manufacturers continue to use paper element filters including PSA, Ford, Mini, Fiat Group, GM to name but a few. The reason for doing so are varied, including weight considerations, raw material costs, perceived environmental benefits. Engine packaging constraints etc etc etc. I've only ever cut one filter open, that was to prove to a guy with an abused mk2 2.8 Granada that it had terminal black death due to failure to change the oil. The idiot didn't believe me that the shit under the rocker covers was also in the sump blocking the drain hole, oil pick up strainer, oil galleries thus completely shagging the engine. He was convinced a bit of flush was all that was needed to get the oil light to go out and the gauge registering some pressure. |
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Post by peterboat on Apr 6, 2017 20:10:16 GMT
Without being funny your BMC engine is by design getting on for 70 years old was last in production many many years ago [which is where it should have stayed] so where do you think your genuine filters are coming from? I converted mine to a spin on canister after seeing the shit quality of the filers for it, would probably been better of with crumpled newspaper and cotton wool in fact, than those I looked at But where a paper element filter is inherently superior to a canister is that you can inspect it to see what it has filtered out. Paper filters were largely replaced in car manufacture by canisters for one reason and one reason only, it's cheaper. They arnt phased out at all they are back in! Why because they are cheaper than canister filters however the problems with them are 1 nowdays the canisters are plastic and fall apart with age [thats the holder as well] 2 oil goes everywhere 3 sometimes the plastic cap seizes on and when you try to take them apart back to 1 4 You get covered in cancerous used diesel oil when changing the filter Advantages 1 I use them for lighting my stove and thats the only advantage I can think of |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 20:11:10 GMT
I think my perkins p4 has a washable oil filter on it I have not interacted with it yet. It seems too large to have an element in there but it might have. A friend who had a P3 said it might be a washable reusable one. I'm terrible about oil changes. Its something I ought to do at some point. Oil's cheaper than engine bits - and a sight easier to change too! I'm not as keen as Foxy with thrice weekly changes, twice a year is good enough, one when we awaken her from her winter slumber in spring and one when we tuck her up around November time. |
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Post by tadworth on Apr 6, 2017 20:15:24 GMT
I knew someone who worked for Coopers filters, they also made Halfords own brand, which contained less filter medium than Coopers own brand. Halfords charged more than Coopers of course.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 20:18:26 GMT
I think my perkins p4 has a washable oil filter on it I have not interacted with it yet. It seems too large to have an element in there but it might have. A friend who had a P3 said it might be a washable reusable one. I'm terrible about oil changes. Its something I ought to do at some point. Oil's cheaper than engine bits - and a sight easier to change too! I'm not as keen as Foxy with thrice weekly changes, twice a year is good enough, one when we awaken her from her winter slumber in spring and one when we tuck her up around November time. I think foxy was taking the mickey bliss about changing the oil every couple of days. He's got a small engine but its a proper high quality unit (Bukh) there is no way it would need to have oil changes more than once a week even if you did 15 hour days. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 20:20:44 GMT
Oil's cheaper than engine bits - and a sight easier to change too! I'm not as keen as Foxy with thrice weekly changes, twice a year is good enough, one when we awaken her from her winter slumber in spring and one when we tuck her up around November time. I think foxy was taking the mickey bliss about changing the oil every couple of days. He's got a small engine but its a proper high quality unit (Bukh) there is no way it would need to have oil changes more than once a week even if you did 15 hour days. I know Lovely little thing it is too 👍 |
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Post by JohnV on Apr 6, 2017 20:29:10 GMT
I think foxy was taking the mickey bliss about changing the oil every couple of days. He's got a small engine but its a proper high quality unit (Bukh) there is no way it would need to have oil changes more than once a week even if you did 15 hour days. I know Lovely little thing it is too 👍 marine engine !! |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 6, 2017 20:33:56 GMT
I think my perkins p4 has a washable oil filter on it I have not interacted with it yet. It seems too large to have an element in there but it might have. A friend who had a P3 said it might be a washable reusable one. I'm terrible about oil changes. Its something I ought to do at some point. Gosh, yes, definitely, there's nothing more guaranteed to wreck an older engine than insufficient oil changes. On an older engine, with tolerances far slacker than modern engines, the oil absorbs much of the by-product of combustion, soot, ash, carbon etc and if you let it build up then eventually the filter by-pass valve will be forced open and all that sludge will be pumped around your engine until eventually the smaller ports and channels become blocked, and then your engine is toast. |
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