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Post by JohnV on Jun 3, 2017 7:26:41 GMT
I hate sewing machines but your picture of the stitches looks pretty good to me I've always preferred sewing by hand with needle and thread but its very time consuming to be fair. I don't hate them and I have used (a very long time ago) an old treadle Singer (my Mother's) to make a new seat cover for a motorbike (much to her displeasure) but I have done some hand sewing of canvas (when I was at sea I made a kitbag out of sailcloth) but as you say Andrew, a desperately slow business. I have sewn minor running repairs on the sails of my mate's old gaffer but I have never had a go making anything sizeable. I certainly understand Wayne's excitement at starting a biggish project while learning a new skill ....... good for him !!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2017 9:08:11 GMT
Here's some ideas for you.
Sew some blinds on the inside to cover the poly windows, gives a nice bit of privacy if you want it - specially if someone kips out the back. Use some webbing and snap fasteners to hold it rolled up. Webbing straps are handy to keep the sides rolled up if you have the tent up whilst cruising.
A windscreen cover is useful to keep the temperature down in the cockpit when moored up on hot sunny days.
Personally I'd go for common sense turnbuckles rather than lit'a'dot - i find LAD awkward to use.
I'll get some pics of our canopy tomorrow or next week ππ»
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Post by faffer on Jun 7, 2017 2:59:30 GMT
I hate sewing machines but your picture of the stitches looks pretty good to me I've always preferred sewing by hand with needle and thread but its very time consuming to be fair. I don't hate them and I have used (a very long time ago) an old treadle Singer (my Mother's) to make a new seat cover for a motorbike (much to her displeasure) but I have done some hand sewing of canvas (when I was at sea I made a kitbag out of sailcloth) but as you say Andrew, a desperately slow business. I have sewn minor running repairs on the sails of my mate's old gaffer but I have never had a go making anything sizeable. I certainly understand Wayne's excitement at starting a biggish project while learning a new skill ....... good for him !!! I couldnt imagine or even attempt to do a canopy by hand, even a kit bag, dont think my fingers would take it. Could be excited John, well i have already gone through all my thread on faffing about sewing lines...some of them zig zaggy Here's some ideas for you. Sew some blinds on the inside to cover the poly windows, gives a nice bit of privacy if you want it - specially if someone kips out the back. Use some webbing and snap fasteners to hold it rolled up. Webbing straps are handy to keep the sides rolled up if you have the tent up whilst cruising. A windscreen cover is useful to keep the temperature down in the cockpit when moored up on hot sunny days. Personally I'd go for common sense turnbuckles rather than lit'a'dot - i find LAD awkward to use. I'll get some pics of our canopy tomorrow or next week ππ» I have ideas in my head Gazza for this but not a windscreen cover , good thinking Yes i am going for turn buckles/buttons, dont like press studs and not keen of lift dots. It is the frame i need to work on first though as i what size tube to use, it will be 316 SS and i think 22mm ?? I will try and sort a sketch and my idea i have for it
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 6:26:07 GMT
I don't hate them and I have used (a very long time ago) an old treadle Singer (my Mother's) to make a new seat cover for a motorbike (much to her displeasure)Β but I have done some hand sewing of canvas (when I was at sea I made a kitbag out of sailcloth) but as you say Andrew, a desperately slow business. I have sewn minor running repairs on the sails of my mate's old gaffer but I have never had a go making anything sizeable. I certainly understand Wayne's excitement at starting a biggish project while learning a new skill ....... good for him !!! I couldnt imagine or even attempt to do a canopy by hand, even a Β kit bag, dont think my fingers would take it.Β Could be excited John, well i have already gone through all my thread on faffing about sewing lines...some of them zig zaggy Β Here's some ideas for you. Sew some blinds on the inside to cover the poly windows, gives a nice bit of privacy if you want it - specially if someone kips out the back. Use some webbing and snap fasteners to hold it rolled up. Webbing straps are handy to keep the sides rolled up if you have the tent up whilst cruising. A windscreen cover is useful to keep the temperature down in the cockpit when moored up on hot sunny days. Personally I'd go for common sense turnbuckles rather than lit'a'dot - i find LAD awkward to use. I'll get some pics of our canopy tomorrow or next week ππ» I have ideas in my head Gazza for this but not a windscreen cover , good thinking Β Yes i am going for turn buckles/buttons, dont like press studs and not keen of lift dots. It is the frame i need to work on first though as i what size tube to use, it will be 316 SS and i think 22mm ?? I will try and sort a sketch and my idea i have for it Our canopy is quite big, 19mm SS tube is plenty strong enough. Ali tube is crap my brother had Ali on his Fairline, bends easily if mistreated (17 stone pissed bloke falling on it will do the trick!) Mild Steel is heavy - 20mm conduit is too flimsy, so 1/2" NB tube is sometimes used and needs to be galvanised, looks crap too. It's best to have a large radius on the sticks if you can, helps to shed water to stop it forming pools. I've got a couple of jobs to do this morning then I'm going to the boat, will get some pictures of my mates Buckingham and the odds and ends we did to ours.
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Post by faffer on Jun 7, 2017 6:51:17 GMT
I couldnt imagine or even attempt to do a canopy by hand, even a kit bag, dont think my fingers would take it. Could be excited John, well i have already gone through all my thread on faffing about sewing lines...some of them zig zaggy I have ideas in my head Gazza for this but not a windscreen cover , good thinking Yes i am going for turn buckles/buttons, dont like press studs and not keen of lift dots. It is the frame i need to work on first though as i what size tube to use, it will be 316 SS and i think 22mm ?? I will try and sort a sketch and my idea i have for it Our canopy is quite big, 19mm SS tube is plenty strong enough. Ali tube is crap my brother had Ali on his Fairline, bends easily if mistreated (17 stone pissed bloke falling on it will do the trick!) Mild Steel is heavy - 20mm conduit is too flimsy, so 1/2" NB tube is sometimes used and needs to be galvanised, looks crap too. It's best to have a large radius on the sticks if you can, helps to shed water to stop it forming pools. I've got a couple of jobs to do this morning then I'm going to the boat, will get some pictures of my mates Buckingham and the odds and ends we did to ours. I will then go for 19mm as I have used on the rails. I was going to use the pipe bender I have as it has a good. About 3 inch i think radius but on the accuracy and chance of a lot of waisted I mite get mandrel preformed tube and weld the frame up. This pipe bender is ok but tends to slip a little. We will see. H
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 18:05:06 GMT
Windscreen cover and idea of the radius you want, the colour has faded alot over the years - the screen cover stays inside and is only used when needed. Held in place by two snap fasteners either side and the top of the canopy. It's sort of like a Nike tick to get the shape around the side windows. Side view.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 18:14:32 GMT
Rear entrance. My advice is to make sure you make it as wide as you can but use several straps, ours is 4' wide and only had the two outside straps so it sagged in the middle, I've just added the extra two in the middle - they are spaced about 12" apart. I hinged the rear hoop of the Main hoop, saved another pivot on the side. My mates Buckingham has two separate sticks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 18:21:57 GMT
Window blinds down - the blinds have snap fasteners along the bottom to stop them gaping. Winding blind rolled up. Sides rolled up completely. Strap and stud detail.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 18:29:22 GMT
My mates Buckingham. I don't like the sides held in by lift a dot. Hardtop stay. Rear entrance, it's not easy to use though!
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Post by faffer on Jun 7, 2017 18:30:51 GMT
Thanks for them kida, your pivoted frame is what i have in mind but i cant seem to find any 19mm hinged joints for the other idea i have . I want some of these in 19mm The rear section on mine will be similar aswell but the rear top angle will not be as much due to loosing use/head room while using the seats. It will be 90 deg then a small angle to the horizontal. The Hardtop has a slight curve when i made it so the canopy will be following that..i hope lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 20:16:05 GMT
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Post by faffer on Jun 8, 2017 2:59:48 GMT
Yes i will may have to settle for them, i am living upto my name `faffer` as when i see some thing i want i spend hours...days ....weeks looking for one. Reason wy the oat has took so long to finish lol. I had ago at the sketch of the frame i am designing last night but wasnt anygood. So i will scan and print pics, draw the frame design on it and scan back to the lap top more than one way the draw a picture
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