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Post by bettina on Jun 2, 2017 18:26:35 GMT
Hi Phil, Please take these comments as constructive & based on a women's (my) point of view. Which may be of no interest or meaning to you at all. 1) when we were looking for a boat, I discounted every one that had a walk through bathroom. We've been married for 18 years now, and I still don't like the idea of him "walking through" when I'm on the loo 2) Am I correct in thinking you've only got 2 windows and the rest are Port Holes? If so, why are both windows on the same side of the boat? 3) If I was designing a boat for us or we were looking at buying a new boat, I'd like to have a side hatch on each side...to catch a breeze and or get a view regardless of which way the boat was facing. I'd replace that ph by the fold up table with another side hatch. 4) don't forget to include some underfloor storage in the galley, it's a great place for either can goods or wine
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Post by leo326 on Jun 2, 2017 20:17:02 GMT
Some quick points: What width have you planned as I see no gunwale margin and on most boats the gunwale and/or tumblehome reduces width considerably. Fridge next to washer reduces the fridge life due to the vibration of the washer when it spins. Is it smart to have a washer high up on a boat, they are generally VERY heavy. Is the cooker to scale, it looks very small. Where is the gas locker? Do you need a side hatch by the kitchen? if so that is a high traffic part of the wall where your shoulder will rub along the wall. Do your appliances fit through the doors/interior when the boat is finished if they need replacing? Where will you store coal/kindling/wood for immediate use? Stove needs clearance at the back as shower cubicles are generally made of plastic and stoves get very hot. Do you watch television, if so where will it go? forward edge of sink-drainer should be rounded, not angled to increase space for people to pass through. Do you intend to have a calorifier? that is a large object, as is an isolation transformer if you intend to have one
I would advise you to check specifications of the bits (washer, fridge, sink drainer, stove etc), also gunwale height and loss of width due to it and the tumblehome.
In any event a good clear idea of what you are trying to achieve. May I suggest that you re-draw each section on graph paper once you have measurements.
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Post by bromleyxphil on Jun 2, 2017 21:34:45 GMT
Thanks guys for taking time to comment, I will work through all comments and suggestions and come up with version 2,3,4 and more. I will then try to justify my choices on some final design, with a bit of luck you will all still be with me by then.
thanks again
Phil
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Post by phil70 on Jun 3, 2017 13:12:41 GMT
I have a semi trad and the best bit about this stern is a bench seat either side with gas locker under one and battery bank under the other. Makes life so much easier with such easy access. Phil
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Post by leo326 on Jun 3, 2017 13:43:36 GMT
Thanks guys for taking time to comment, I will work through all comments and suggestions and come up with version 2,3,4 and more. I will then try to justify my choices on some final design, with a bit of luck you will all still be with me by then. thanks again Phil The amazing thing about narrowboats is that you do not have to justify your choices to anyone but the BSS and yourself. The design and construction police can only "tut".
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Post by bromleyxphil on Jun 5, 2017 17:17:19 GMT
Still refining my plans, do the following measurements look like a realistic starting point for the internal measurements to work with? I can then fine tune when I find my builder.
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Post by leo326 on Jun 5, 2017 18:28:53 GMT
Yes. I checked most of the measurements against my boat and there was a general agreement. Not to the inch, or even two in some places. Where will your main wiring runs be? If the wiring will be under the gunwales then the tumblehome cladding will probably come lower to cover them. if in the roof then that will be a bit lower. For initial planning that shape should work. Naturally shells, battening and cladding's vary but it will allow you to identify the tight or problem spots. Be wary around the gunwale area. Your work surfaces will be below it but things on the work surfaces will be above it. There is no point in having a cooker hob part way under the gunwale as the saucepans will not fit on the hob, especially the tall stewpot you want to keep on the back burner.
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Post by Jim on Jun 6, 2017 13:54:18 GMT
Are you not having a strake lower and wider than the gunnel edge? Less likely to get hooked up/stuck under brickwork etc. My boat has flat sides and it has a tendency to do that.
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Post by bromleyxphil on Jun 6, 2017 17:47:36 GMT
Are you not having a strake lower and wider than the gunnel edge? Less likely to get hooked up/stuck under brickwork etc. My boat has flat sides and it has a tendency to do that. Thanks for the input but I need a little less technical explanation for that one. I.e. How will it affect my shape and sizes. phil
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Post by tonyqj on Jun 6, 2017 18:09:23 GMT
Are you not having a strake lower and wider than the gunnel edge? Less likely to get hooked up/stuck under brickwork etc. My boat has flat sides and it has a tendency to do that. Those dimensions that Phil posted are internal
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Post by metanoia on Jun 6, 2017 19:27:57 GMT
Great plans and some good ideas but why would you want to be washing up and watching someone on the toilet?
We have a great walkthrough bathroom - but more discreet.....
And sod the visitors..............!!
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Post by metanoia on Jun 6, 2017 19:32:40 GMT
Are you not having a strake lower and wider than the gunnel edge? Less likely to get hooked up/stuck under brickwork etc. My boat has flat sides and it has a tendency to do that. Thanks for the input but I need a little less technical explanation for that one. I.e. How will it affect my shape and sizes. phil !!!
But at least Jim has a boat - unlike Tony QJ?
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Post by Jim on Jun 7, 2017 9:18:26 GMT
Are you not having a strake lower and wider than the gunnel edge? Less likely to get hooked up/stuck under brickwork etc. My boat has flat sides and it has a tendency to do that. Thanks for the input but I need a little less technical explanation for that one. I.e. How will it affect my shape and sizes. phil It won't really alter your layout, as for your shape and size, fewer pies? I see now that you weren't doing a cross section of the actual hull, it was just for internal layout purposes. Look at a few boats,you'll see what I was trying to describe, or you may already know or the builder may be doing it anyway.
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