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Post by lollygagger on Dec 1, 2017 10:18:03 GMT
Following on from my "crap insulation" thread, I'm leaning towards installing a second multi-fuel stove.
Can anyone recommend a small one?
A few more questions....
Do I have to install a twin wall flue? Seems like a waste of heat/con to sell and therefore tax more fuel to me. Grrr.
Hoping that I can fit a single wall flue, will any old steel pipe do? 2mm wall thickness or thicker? Flues appear expensive otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2017 10:51:44 GMT
I wouldn't go too small as it will be difficult to keep in over night.
Villager puffin is quite good but the large glass window is a bit vulnerable. If it does get broken one solution I think might work would be to replace the glass with a steel plate and make up a little mica viewing window. I find mica lasts longer than glass !
In fact I'd make up a steel version cut a hole in it say 3 inch diameter in the middle then cut out a ring of steel and bolt it over the hole to clip the mica in place. So you are ready for when the glass breaks.
I've fitted a few fires over the years and only ever used steel pipe and cast iron roof collars. No idea if that's allowed or not ?
Go for a stove with top flue fitting rather than back it makes it easier to clean.
Beckton Bunny is another one which is meant to be pretty good.
There are loads of old stoves on eBay some of them look really nice but I don't know how the BS scheme deals with these things.
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Post by quaysider on Dec 1, 2017 11:09:02 GMT
I know I keep harpipng on about it, but I am really chufffed with the one we bought in the end... www.gr8fires.co.uk/gbs-mariner-4-kw-multi-fuel-wood-burning-stove-9486buttons compared to most - I bought a flu kit (fro Ely chandlers) for just under £100 quid and the whole thing works brilliantly - staying in overnight with ease... I made it up about 8.30 last night and closed it 3/4 down (up depending on your choice of wording) and at 7.30 this morninig it was still going strong and whilst minus 2 out side the boat, still 23 degrees in the saloon . |
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Post by peterboat on Dec 1, 2017 11:12:30 GMT
Boatman best small stove on the market and if you order it from eddie it can come with everything it needs to fit it. Ours stays in overnight we have never broke the glass on it and is now 7 - 8 years old
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Post by lollygagger on Dec 1, 2017 11:18:07 GMT
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Post by lollygagger on Dec 1, 2017 11:22:22 GMT
I wouldn't go too small as it will be difficult to keep in over night. Villager puffin is quite good but the large glass window is a bit vulnerable. If it does get broken one solution I think might work would be to replace the glass with a steel plate and make up a little mica viewing window. I find mica lasts longer than glass ! In fact I'd make up a steel version cut a hole in it say 3 inch diameter in the middle then cut out a ring of steel and bolt it over the hole to clip the mica in place. So you are ready for when the glass breaks. I've fitted a few fires over the years and only ever used steel pipe and cast iron roof collars. No idea if that's allowed or not ? Go for a stove with top flue fitting rather than back it makes it easier to clean. Beckton Bunny is another one which is meant to be pretty good. There are loads of old stoves on eBay some of them look really nice but I don't know how the BS scheme deals with these things. My squirrel needed an extra fire brick at the back and an engineering brick each side to tone it down. My Stockton 3 has 2" of extra fire bricks each side. Both stay in overnight. So I thought best get a smaller one or is it the shear mass of the larger stoves help them hang in for longer? |
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Post by lollygagger on Dec 1, 2017 11:31:36 GMT
Boatman best small stove on the market and if you order it from eddie it can come with everything it needs to fit it. Ours stays in overnight we have never broke the glass on it and is now 7 - 8 years old Is it really any different to the others linked to above? Similar price and they seem to be manufactured locally to me though and I like local. 👍 |
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Post by lollygagger on Dec 1, 2017 11:33:12 GMT
... or are they made in China and assembled here like Hobbit stoves?
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Post by quaysider on Dec 1, 2017 11:45:10 GMT
it's actually the same stove - when it arrived, it was boxed up as Hardy Hamlet - and the label on the side says Arada! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2017 11:49:05 GMT
I put a Davey HotPot stove in a very small motorsailer I was living on for a year and it was not very successful at burning through the night. It was a nice little stove but more for occasional use then residential.
That's what I think of as a "small" stove but in reality it was a "fekkin tiny" stove !
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Post by lollygagger on Dec 1, 2017 12:43:23 GMT
I put a Davey HotPot stove in a very small motorsailer I was living on for a year and it was not very successful at burning through the night. It was a nice little stove but more for occasional use then residential. That's what I think of as a "small" stove but in reality it was a "fekkin tiny" stove ! Yes that really is small and rather expensive too! |
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Post by lollygagger on Dec 1, 2017 12:44:59 GMT
I think I could do the whole job for less than £500. I'll have a think, we're trying running the central heating for longer meanwhile. Maybe that and a 4" high level duct to background stove heat to waft from front to back could do it for now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2017 14:09:36 GMT
Other options for small space heating.
Taylors 079d bulkhead mounted diesel heater
Refleks 66m diesel heater
Pansy charcoal heater
Sigmar bulkhead mounted diesel heater
There are some others including a bulkhead mounted charcoal heater I forgot the name of.
All expensive new but turn up second hand occasionally.
Then there's the American "cozy cabin" LPG heater which is pretty wicked but not sure if the BS scheme likes these.
If its basically OK then maybe a small backup unit like one of the above would be worthwhile or if you have reasonably priced electric then maybe just thermostatic radiator? On my barge (57x12ft) I have a single stove with no boiler it is about 5kw rating. I have two 1kw electric skirting rads as well which come on if its really cold. Works OK. The stove is in the centre of the boat which helps.
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Post by peterboat on Dec 1, 2017 16:04:54 GMT
... or are they made in China and assembled here like Hobbit stoves? Eddie makes the boatman, I watched him make mine great job great price. I have to say I have known him a long time so maybe I am biased, but his latest stove is more efficient than mine so he last time I saw him showed me how to mod mine to make it better. |
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Post by Jim on Dec 2, 2017 7:07:18 GMT
I have a Dowling little devil in mine  but because of the sloping door, smoke comes out when loading. Got a little job last week clearing a backyard, 2 tip runs with car and trailer full, and I got to keep the 2 Clarke/machine mart stoves that needed shifting too. One is a Buckingham, just right for boat, the other a Clarke Barrel Stove. A 10kw beast. Perhaps a tad large in output. Tried posting pics but struggling on mobile. |
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