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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 7:52:48 GMT
It seems likely it will become more expensive to live on boats. My central London residential mooring is going up by 30% over the next 3 years. I don't think cc-ing costs will be increasing that rapidly but there will be complaints anyway.
What will be interesting is what happens when the predicted increase in towpath users occurs - all those depressed people out hoping to cheer themselves up. What happens when they see some of the awful slum areas with boat innards strewn across the towpaths and big generators running.
I sincerely hope itinerant boat owners don't end up being vilified like "pikeys" that would be a great shame.
Its a small problem but it does exist.
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Post by bargemast on May 29, 2018 7:54:07 GMT
I can hear that squeaking again. Do mice eat dry poo? Not a personal experience, but a "hear-say", Mice love dry poo when it's mixed with freshly grated American cheese.
Make America grate again !
Peter.
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Post by Telemachus on May 29, 2018 7:54:20 GMT
I suppose with old people, one can expect to have to repeat oneself so here goes. No one except you said anyone wanted to be philanthropic. As you say, they want a safe return on their investment. No doubt that offends the Communist in you, but it is just as well they do or there would be massively more homeless people. People would be unable to move to a new job, the economy would suffer, Do you get it yet? (Probably not). Bullshit Nick, your so full of shit it's coming out of your mouth. Are you sure it isn’t chocolate sauce?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 7:57:34 GMT
I didn’t say they were doing it for philanthropic reasons. It doesn’t matter what the reason is, what matters is that some people do what the government won’t do, which is to provide housing for the renting sector. Clearly you are envious of people who through their own hard work have money to spare, but it would be very mean spirited of you if you wanted them eliminated and all the people whom they provide homes for, out on the street just to satisfy that envy. So you think I'm envious ..... ah well, that is why I normally ignore your posts, your first reaction to anyone questioning your thinking, is to insult ..... I think you are easily confused, especially about your importance in the scheme of things. If they really wanted to be philanthropic (rather than just making a large return on their capital) they should have built almshouses, you are trying to make them sound like the saviours of the oppressed If someone is concentrating on maximising their wealth by leveraging other people's labour for example BTL then it is likely they assume everyone else would like to do this and is envious of their "success" as if how much money you have is the only thing which matters. The fact is that not everyone does want to do this. People have different attitudes to it and to describe someone as envious of your chosen wealth generation techniques is a weak argument.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 8:00:45 GMT
It's a policy that they obviously do not publicise. Privately, CRT, along with the IWA would like to see an end to liveaboard boat owners. They would also like to rid the waterways of boats with no home moorings. Although they do not make this policy public, they look at all sorts of ways to make it difficult for those without home moorings. I've attended plenty of meetings where feelings have been expressed, and quickly then been withdrawn. The fact is nick, you know fuck all about how CRT minds work, 1, because you dont give a fuck anyway, and 2, because you have never met any of them. Your just a bullshittes, and time and time again, your shown up to be the Muppet you set out to be. I’ve no doubt that some in the IWA and CRT would quite like to get rid of liveaboards, well the ones constantly whinging about how hard done by they are, how THEY are conspiring against them and how generally, it’s all SO UNFAIR. But that doesn’t mean it going to happen. I’d quite like to have my writhing naked body coated in chocolate sauce and licked off by a bunch of lithe fit young men, but that probably ain’t going to happen either. SO UNFAIR! What a cheap, tacky reply. You are beginning to sound like some sort of old pervert.
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Post by Telemachus on May 29, 2018 8:05:52 GMT
So you think I'm envious ..... ah well, that is why I normally ignore your posts, your first reaction to anyone questioning your thinking, is to insult ..... I think you are easily confused, especially about your importance in the scheme of things. If they really wanted to be philanthropic (rather than just making a large return on their capital) they should have built almshouses, you are trying to make them sound like the saviours of the oppressed If someone is concentrating on maximising their wealth by leveraging other people's labour for example BTL then it is likely they assume everyone else would like to do this and is envious of their "success" as if how much money you have is the only thing which matters. The fact is that not everyone does want to do this. People have different attitudes to it and to describe someone as envious of your chosen wealth generation techniques is a weak argument. I can only go by what people write on here. Nowhere did anyone say that everyone had to do it. Obviously I have no problem with those that don’t want to do it or can’t. I do have a problem with an irrational hatred of those who do, and would like it stopped without any clue as to how the accommodation needs of millions of people would thereafter be met. The most likely driver for an irrational reaction like that is envy, although I suppose insanity is another. Take you pick.
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Post by Telemachus on May 29, 2018 8:06:36 GMT
I’ve no doubt that some in the IWA and CRT would quite like to get rid of liveaboards, well the ones constantly whinging about how hard done by they are, how THEY are conspiring against them and how generally, it’s all SO UNFAIR. But that doesn’t mean it going to happen. I’d quite like to have my writhing naked body coated in chocolate sauce and licked off by a bunch of lithe fit young men, but that probably ain’t going to happen either. SO UNFAIR! What a cheap, tacky reply. You are beginning to sound like some sort of old pervert. Beginning? I must try harder!
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Post by kris on May 29, 2018 8:08:25 GMT
The buy to let property market has very little to do with the iwa and cart wanting to make it impossible to liscence a boat without a home mooring.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 8:13:15 GMT
Ok let's think about this.
Someone is able to raise an amount of money to pay someone a monthly payment which is paying a mortgage.
If you took the "landlord" out of that picture then the logical outcome is that you would have a natural housing market where these people - far from being homeless - would be paying off a mortgage for something which they would then own.
BTL is far more likely to cause homelessness because the person who owns the property has their own accommodation sorted out no worries but is perfectly happy to take money off someone and boot them out if it gets awkward or interest rates go up.
No envy, no sanity involved just logic.
Your assertion that BTL landlords are saving people from being homeless is simply rubbish.
Anyway I blame Gordon Brown. At least the Tories had a go at trying to control the problem as if allowed to run away out of control it could destroy the economy.
Its nothing to do with "FAIR" as that does not exist. Its to do with unnatural behaviours.
Obviously the banks prefer a BTL to a family looking to buy but banks don't give a shit about anyone.
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Post by Telemachus on May 29, 2018 8:14:25 GMT
The buy to let property market has very little to do with the iwa and cart wanting to make it impossible to liscence a boat without a home mooring. Have a gold star, clever boy
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 8:14:28 GMT
The buy to let property market has very little to do with the iwa and cart wanting to make it impossible to liscence a boat without a home mooring. Sorry about that kris.
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Post by kris on May 29, 2018 8:16:05 GMT
The buy to let property market has very little to do with the iwa and cart wanting to make it impossible to liscence a boat without a home mooring. Have a gold star, clever boy Twat.
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Post by kris on May 29, 2018 8:17:12 GMT
The buy to let property market has very little to do with the iwa and cart wanting to make it impossible to liscence a boat without a home mooring. Sorry about that kris. That's alright it's Nick who has hijacked the thread, but that's because he's too thick to come up with his own threads.
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Post by Telemachus on May 29, 2018 8:19:28 GMT
Ok let's think about this. Someone is able to raise an amount of money to pay someone a monthly payment which is paying a mortgage. If you took the "landlord" out of that picture then the logical outcome is that you would have a natural housing market where these people - far from being homeless - would be paying off a mortgage for something which they would then own. BTL is far more likely to cause homelessness because the person who owns the property has their own accommodation sorted out no worries but is perfectly happy to take money off someone and boot them out if it gets awkward or interest rates go up. No envy, no sanity involved just logic. Your assertion that BTL landlords are saving people from being homeless is simply rubbish. Anyway I blame Gordon Brown. At least the Tories had a go at trying to control the problem as if allowed to run away out of control it could destroy the economy. Its nothing to do with "FAIR" as that does not exist. Its to do with unnatural behaviours. Obviously the banks prefer a BTL to a family looking to buy but banks don't give a shit about anyone. Ok let’s actually think about this. Buying a house is a big tie. Moving house is very expensive and stressful and not something to be done routinely. Many people simply don’t want to buy a house for these reasons, especially younger people staring out on careers that will require frequent relocations. Why should they be forced to buy a house just to please you? They don’t want to. Get over it! You continue to be irrational. How many rented homes funded by private capital are there is the U.K.? What would happen to all those tenants if those rented homes suddenly ceased to exist?
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Post by Telemachus on May 29, 2018 8:22:25 GMT
That's alright it's Nick who has hijacked the thread, but that's because he's too thick to come up with his own threads. I realise that reading isn’t your strongest point (your strongest points being an inexhaustible supply of anger and paranoia) but if you were better at it you would see that it wasn’t me who raised the subject of landlords, it was some other ultra-left envious commie bloke. I was merely responding to their irrational flights of fancy.
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