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Post by kris on Jun 7, 2018 19:26:47 GMT
Seems like a good opportunity to hand over general towpath managment to the local council. Not sure how this would go down with boaters. I know you keep mentioning this, but I don't think the councils will do it because of f the exspense. Personally I think it would be a recipe for disaster.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 19:30:20 GMT
If people keep falling in and drowning I would prefer the funds for sorting the problem came from local council rather than boat license and mooring payments.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 19:41:55 GMT
In most major towns and cities, roads particularly around junctions, are barriered to 'save people from their own stupidity'.
I'm not surprised that the same approach is being adopted on canals in cities.
I would hope the barriers would be aesthetically pleasing, but I believe in some locations they are inevitable.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 19:59:14 GMT
In a lot of places there are short railings where for example a path leads down to the towpath. This makes sense. I wonder if the area where people are drowning is something like this and has perhaps been overlooked.
The idea of putting fencing along canal towpaths is completely ridiculous. Its worth doing something for idiot areas but gating it as well seems very silly.
What happens when someone drowns trying to get round the gate? If there is a security system then idiots will try to defeat it.
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Post by JohnV on Jun 7, 2018 20:08:26 GMT
CRT spending a fortune on advertising towpaths for walkers, joggers and cyclists ..... and Manchester council wanting to fence it all off as a dangerous environment.
you really couldn't make this up
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Post by kris on Jun 7, 2018 20:14:34 GMT
If people keep falling in and drowning I would prefer the funds for sorting the problem came from local council rather than boat license and mooring payments. I'm sure crt would as well. There are cases of this happening before. In skipton there's a section through town where the council flagged the towpath and put street lighting on the towpath. The money came from the developers when one of the big warehouses was developed. Now the stone flags are uneven and dangerous and none of the lights work. Crt won't pay to maintain the path now or the lights and the council doesn't want to know either.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 20:17:21 GMT
That's a problem certainly. The thing is that if fencing is allowed in one place and its funded by CRT it seems inevitable that it will grow and grow and become a huge expense and also very unsightly. Surely it would be better to just get a better insurance policy
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Post by kris on Jun 7, 2018 20:21:21 GMT
Just don't allow the general public on the towpath. Obviously for their own well being. I'd rather that than the towpath is fenced every where. What with all the new signs cart like putting every where and all the development any historical context will be lost soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 20:24:18 GMT
Just don't allow the general public on the towpath. Obviously for their own well being. I'd rather that than the towpath is fenced every where. What with all the new signs cart like putting every where and all the development any historical context will be lost soon. I think the subject is about preventing people from falling in the water. Obviously fencing off all the towpaths on the OTHER side of the path would be very nice - that's unarguable.
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Post by kris on Jun 7, 2018 20:26:25 GMT
Well if they are not allowed on the towpath they can't fall in the water.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 7, 2018 20:27:11 GMT
Just don't allow the general public on the towpath. Obviously for their own well being. But then how can happiness levels rise to explosive levels?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 20:31:31 GMT
Just don't allow the general public on the towpath. Obviously for their own well being. But then how can happiness levels rise to explosive levels? I would find that it happened very readily
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Post by kris on Jun 7, 2018 20:31:46 GMT
Just don't allow the general public on the towpath. Obviously for their own well being. But then how can happiness levels rise to explosive levels? I don't know, I think quite a lot of boaters would be happy. I'm not sure if they would be explosively happy,but hey.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 20:37:58 GMT
I suspect that limiting access to towpaths by members of the general public would be subject to a challenge in court under the Cyclists Rights Act.
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Post by patty on Jun 8, 2018 5:43:06 GMT
If people need protecting from themselves cos they drink to much, fall in and drown, shut the pubs near the problem areas...sorted ..... Of course I do realise this plan may not meet with approval.....
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