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Post by bargemast on Jun 19, 2018 20:43:42 GMT
Here a video of a Polish built barge that's loading on the IJsselmeer in a SW wind force 8/9.
Is recommandated to have plenty of spare (clean) underpants to crew under this sort of weather conditions.
Here are some photo's of that ship, in the discription you can see that it has been lenghtened too.
Peter.
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Post by bodger on Jun 20, 2018 7:40:03 GMT
Is recommandated to have plenty of spare (clean) underpants to crew under this sort of weather conditions.
why? having worked on marine civil engineering projects for many years I don't find that particularly scary...... those spoil dump barges don't sink, they have adequate buoyancy. |
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Post by bargemast on Jun 20, 2018 7:59:24 GMT
Is recommandated to have plenty of spare (clean) underpants to crew under this sort of weather conditions. why? having worked on marine civil engineering projects for many years I don't find that particularly scary...... those spoil dump barges don't sink, they have adequate buoyancy. Myself, I haven't worked on marine civil engineering projects, but believe it or not, I do know quite a lot about these kind of barges, as in my younger years (still in the Netherlands) several of my friends had barges like this. You're right, the way they are build they can have their holds full of sand and still float, but if you would read the statics, every year a couple of these barges sink anyway, often because of human failure, by leaving a hatch slightly open on the bow, or one of the higher in between decks, or engineroom vents, and un unexpected sudden change of weather, gust of wind that chance the waves (happens very often on the IJsselmeer) and an other compartment fills up, and then it's finished with the reserve buoyancy. When everything is at the limit, it doesn't need much to go terribly wrong
You don't find it particularly scary, if I may ask you just one question : "Have you ever been on board one of these in weather conditions like this, or is it only because you know that they are built with adequate buoyancy ?"
Peter.
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Post by bodger on Jun 20, 2018 17:52:44 GMT
what exactly are the conditions that you find scary?
plenty of folk enjoy dodging the waves on seafronts where the impact of the waves and the spray are ten times worse, and they do it just for fun.
the scary element on this barge is purely imagined IMHO.
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Post by bargemast on Jun 20, 2018 19:16:17 GMT
what exactly are the conditions that you find scary? plenty of folk enjoy dodging the waves on seafronts where the impact of the waves and the spray are ten times worse, and they do it just for fun. the scary element on this barge is purely imagined IMHO. Hello bodger, by not having answered my question : "Have you ever been on board one of these in weather conditions like this, or is it only because you know that they are built with adequate buoyancy ?", I pressume that the answer should have been "NO".
Now to answer your question about the conditions that I find scary, my answer is "reality".
More and more folks are diving of high buildings or out off planes in special wing costumes that enables them to fly, they do that just for fun too, but that doesn't mean that it's not dangerous.
You finish with saying :"The scary element on this barge is purely imagined IMHO", you are of course 100% free to have your own opinion on this matter, but without ever having had an experience like this yourself, it's very easy to say that, and hasn't got much, or even any value for me.
If we would all have the same ideas about everything the world would maybe be a dull place.
Peter.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jun 20, 2018 20:15:34 GMT
what exactly are the conditions that you find scary? plenty of folk enjoy dodging the waves on seafronts where the impact of the waves and the spray are ten times worse, and they do it just for fun. the scary element on this barge is purely imagined IMHO. Seafronts, and similar such structures, don't develop leaks in rough conditions and then sink as a consequence of them, . . . things that float do ! In the 'reality' that Peter mentions there are a thousand and one potential sources of leakage serious enough to send a vessel to the bottom in conditions like that, from damaged weather deck vents to split welds in the hull plating and decks, brought about by years of battering and flexing in similarly rough conditions. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 20:46:20 GMT
I was kacking myself watching the footage! Made me think of the book Grey Seas Under I read earlier this year, and my huge respect for people who work in that environment. I realise we are supposed to be a nation of sailors......maybe I was a long bow man  I prefer terra firma.....and the more the firm the less the terror. Rog |
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Post by bargemast on Jun 21, 2018 6:55:54 GMT
I was kacking myself watching the footage! Made me think of the book Grey Seas Under I read earlier this year, and my huge respect for people who work in that environment. I realise we are supposed to be a nation of sailors......maybe I was a long bow man I prefer terra firma.....and the more the firm the less the terror. Rog Still one of my favorite books that one.
Peter.
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