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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 23, 2018 20:32:43 GMT
Apart from the attrocious racket the breeding herons are making in the woods next to us, it is really quiet and peaceful here.
Herons. I thought it was wild pigs being molested by foxes! What a din!
I might steal some herons eggs for breakfast.
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Post by peterboat on Jun 23, 2018 20:53:38 GMT
By the time the Low Emissions Zones come in there will be massive unemployment due to brexit and immigration/reproduction problems which means there will be fit young males hanging around by bridges offering to bow haul your boat through the LEZ. Like the old tunnel Leggers of yesteryear. They will only need beer money and maybe a bowl of oats. Certainly more reliable than ugly solar panels made in china, batteries made in china, motor made in india, toothed drive belt made in china, speed controller made in china and a propeller made in china And weed made in england ! My motor is made in I'm not sure til I buy it on Monday, the batteries in USA, motor controller is curtis made under license in Hong Kong, direct drive so no belt and the prop was made in the UK no weed on our canal cos the very big boat removes it!! I thought your low emissions zones come in next year in the smoke? least thats what the sign says on the M1, oops forgot the solar panels mine on the roof are made in America the new ones no idea but they were cheap so more than likely China.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 20:58:08 GMT
By the time the Low Emissions Zones come in there will be massive unemployment due to brexit and immigration/reproduction problems which means there will be fit young males hanging around by bridges offering to bow haul your boat through the LEZ. Like the old tunnel Leggers of yesteryear. They will only need beer money and maybe a bowl of oats. Certainly more reliable than ugly solar panels made in china, batteries made in china, motor made in india, toothed drive belt made in china, speed controller made in china and a propeller made in china And weed made in england ! My motor is made in I'm not sure til I buy it on Monday, the batteries in USA, motor controller is curtis made under license in Hong Kong, direct drive so no belt and the prop was made in the UK no weed on our canal cos the very big boat removes it!! I thought your low emissions zones come in next year in the smoke? least thats what the sign says on the M1, oops forgot the solar panels mine on the roof are made in America the new ones no idea but they were cheap so more than likely China.
A quality Northampton company that my step dad does a bit of work for now and again. www.curtisinst.co.uk/
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 21:05:40 GMT
For all those engine running fascists (& especially for dogless) that feel the need to inflict their fumes & noise on the rest of us, I don't care how ugly you think they are, it's my boat & your opinion simply doesn't count. Turned engine off yesterday about 3pm, telly has been on most of the day, batteries are down to 13.0V No part of that alters the fact that I think they're ugly. If all I wished to do on the boat was watch tv, I think I'd be drinking Newcy Brown.......lots and lots of it. I'll stick with cruising for battery charging and hot water, but thanks anyway. Rog
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Post by peterboat on Jun 23, 2018 21:15:37 GMT
For all those engine running fascists (& especially for dogless) that feel the need to inflict their fumes & noise on the rest of us, I don't care how ugly you think they are, it's my boat & your opinion simply doesn't count. Turned engine off yesterday about 3pm, telly has been on most of the day, batteries are down to 13.0V While I agree that aesthetically putting solar panels on a narrowboat is a bit like putting a bumper sticker on a Rolls-Royce, the point has already been made that many boats need to run their engines anyway to provide hot water. If you have enough solar it heats the water as well spare capacity can run the immersion heater
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 23, 2018 21:21:16 GMT
For all those engine running fascists (& especially for dogless) that feel the need to inflict their fumes & noise on the rest of us, I don't care how ugly you think they are, it's my boat & your opinion simply doesn't count. Turned engine off yesterday about 3pm, telly has been on most of the day, batteries are down to 13.0V No part of that alters the fact that I think they're ugly. If all I wished to do on the boat was watch tv, I think I'd be drinking Newcy Brown.......lots and lots of it. I'll stick with cruising for battery charging and hot water, but thanks anyway. Rog I'm sure solar power has its uses for some folk and I have considered it myself, but the trouble is that whenever the sun is providing meaningful input I am generally cruising for several hours a day anyway, and when I am on my mooring over the Winter there is insufficient sunlight to make any meaningful difference to my battery state of charge. Plus, of course, I also need hot water and on my boat the only way to supply this is by running the engine. In fact, I find that the time I need to run the engine to provide a tank of hot water is exactly the amount of time I need to run the engine to charge the batteries. The fact that they completely ruin the look of a boat is a secondary but still important consideration.
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Post by JohnV on Jun 23, 2018 21:43:33 GMT
No part of that alters the fact that I think they're ugly. If all I wished to do on the boat was watch tv, I think I'd be drinking Newcy Brown.......lots and lots of it. I'll stick with cruising for battery charging and hot water, but thanks anyway. Rog The fact that they completely ruin the look of a boat is a secondary but still important consideration. How do you ruin the look of a sewer tube ?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 22:35:31 GMT
The fact that they completely ruin the look of a boat is a secondary but still important consideration. How do you ruin the look of a sewer tube ? By placing solar panels on the top.
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Post by Telemachus on Jun 23, 2018 22:55:33 GMT
The fact that they completely ruin the look of a boat is a secondary but still important consideration. How do you ruin the look of a sewer tube ? I think you mean, in this specific case, a coffin.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2018 7:32:02 GMT
I used to dislike seeing solar panels on otherwise attractive houses, but now it appears you 'have to have solar' on boats too. The panels are ugly, and look entirely out of place to me. Handsome looking boats are vandalised by the things. A friend has a permanent mooring, rarely cruises, and consequently the panels she has make sense, albeit they still look ugly. I realise if the boat was my permanent home and I cruised weekly rather than daily, I would have to tolerate them. But it's getting to the point now where I am frequently lectured and harangued by other boaters about solar. It's solar facism I tell you. Ah.....that's better now Rog It's not often I quote myself, but I thought it makes sense to here. I am very aware of the value of solar panels for some, and was not disparaging, as evidenced above. I consider Paneke to be a beautifully styled narrow boat, with a gorgeous upsweep at the stern. Panels would not add to the look. The only time panels would assist me is in the winter months when I cruise less, but then the solar folks are running their engines as well. My opening post was a 'bit of a rant' about the other boaters I meet, who feel compelled to 'sell me the idea' constantly. Rog
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2018 7:38:31 GMT
I used to dislike seeing solar panels on otherwise attractive houses, but now it appears you 'have to have solar' on boats too. The panels are ugly, and look entirely out of place to me. Handsome looking boats are vandalised by the things. A friend has a permanent mooring, rarely cruises, and consequently the panels she has make sense, albeit they still look ugly. I realise if the boat was my permanent home and I cruised weekly rather than daily, I would have to tolerate them. But it's getting to the point now where I am frequently lectured and harangued by other boaters about solar. It's solar facism I tell you. Ah.....that's better now Rog It's not often I quote myself, but I thought it makes sense to here. I am very aware of the value of solar panels for some, and was not disparaging, as evidenced above. I consider Paneke to be a beautifully styled narrow boat, with a gorgeous upsweep at the stern. Panels would not add to the look. The only time panels would assist me is in the winter months when I cruise less, but then the solar folks are running their engines as well. My opening post was a 'bit of a rant' about the other boaters I meet, who feel compelled to 'sell me the idea' constantly. Rog Tell them to piss off and mind their own business then?!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2018 7:42:37 GMT
You're the king of subtle wit and repartee Rog
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2018 7:48:31 GMT
You're the king of subtle wit and repartee Rog It's a good job naughtyfox isn't on CWDF, he'd be getting 'advice' about what he is doing to his batteries and how he needs to spend a bazillion pounds on panels, mppt controllers and have three smartgauges just because. At least on here he only gets told to go boating or get a nice powerful cheap Genny from screwfix
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Post by quaysider on Jun 24, 2018 8:45:54 GMT
Whilst we've got 3 of them on the roof of the boat (and 15 on the roof of the house) I do agree they look ugly, but as has stated, they do allow us to have the webasto on to heat the calorifier with minimum battery discharge AND do a load of washing before 8am on the batteries (assuming I've pour 10-15 litres of hot water out of the tank in through the drawer )
AND as for the house, the income from the feed in tarrif for them should mean the mortgage gets paid off about 5 years earlier than planned.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2018 13:49:57 GMT
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