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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 14:02:55 GMT
Moored in berkhamsted. One o'clock and I need to do a load of washing. Genny out, (not a noisy one) and washing goes on. I had decided not to do this on Sunday, as it would disturb others weekend.
First, a guy comes out of his back gate and asks how long the genny will be running. About an hour I state, I'm just doing a washing programme. Ok he says, I just wanted to check that it was not on unnecessarily. Oh, says I, may I suggest you don't buy a house near the farm and complain about the cockerel and stink.
That's the end of that? No. 10 minutes later, the local nuisance better known as Lindy marches onto the back of me boat uninvited and suggests I'm breaking the law! What the fuck? Get off my fuckin boat I say, and she states the law entitles her to step onto my boat as well! 😂🤣😂. I'll count to three, then remove you if I have to says I. I reminded her that yesterday I had not complained about the noise of a lawnmower from the garden.
These people need to realise the world doesn't revolve around their little castles, other people's needs should be considered.
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Post by Stumpy on Jul 2, 2018 14:14:28 GMT
I know a man....He has no name
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 2, 2018 14:15:29 GMT
I think the first guy was reasonable. When a genny goes on (and it must be audible otherwise how would he know it is on?) one of the stressors is not knowing how long it’s going to be on for. If he finds out “an hour” then there is certainty which makes things much easier. When he bought the house near the canal it might have been 30 years ago when there was not a proliferation of boat dwellers running noisy smokey engines and gennies. If they are new houses, less excuse I suppose.
The second lady was obviously a nutter.
But is it actually necessary to run your genny outside someone’s house? You are “allowed to” of course, but is it considerate? This is why in balance to the proliferation of CCing boats, there is a proliferation of people complaining about them. Most of it is about noise and smoke, and I can sympathise because I like neither.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 14:20:16 GMT
Years ago I was moored between winkwell swing bridge and the next lock going up. On visitor mooring. Two boats mine and my mum's both blatantly lived on with (sociable) lurchers. A woman from a nearby house came and asked "when are you going?" I said "probably tomorrow" the woman looked annoyed then I observed later that there was what appeared to be an estate agent showing people round. I guess she thought our hippy boats covered in flowers were a problem.
I just sincerely hope itinerant boaters don't end up with the same sort of hate travellers get. Tarred with the same brush etc.
It could go that way and that would be shame.
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Post by bargemast on Jul 2, 2018 14:22:54 GMT
Moored in berkhamsted. One o'clock and I need to do a load of washing. Genny out, (not a noisy one) and washing goes on. I had decided not to do this on Sunday, as it would disturb others weekend. First, a guy comes out of his back gate and asks how long the genny will be running. About an hour I state, I'm just doing a washing programme. Ok he says, I just wanted to check that it was not on unnecessarily. Oh, says I, may I suggest you don't buy a house near the farm and complain about the cockerel and stink. That's the end of that? No. 10 minutes later, the local nuisance better known as Lindy marches onto the back of me boat uninvited and suggests I'm breaking the law! What the fuck? Get off my fuckin boat I say, and she states the law entitles her to step onto my boat as well! 😂🤣😂. I'll count to three, then remove you if I have to says I. I reminded her that yesterday I had not complained about the noise of a lawnmower from the garden. These people need to realise the world doesn't revolve around their little castles, other people's needs should be considered. She said that the law entitles her to step on your boat, which is of course a lie (she could be related to Trump)
I would have said that the law entitles me to kick people off my boat, or hit them with a mooring spike until they ask for more, which is of course a lie too.
There's no need to be nice to that kind of people that think that they can do anything because they're living in a house next to the canal.
I also would have offered the guy to stop my genny as soon as he'd plugged in my extention cord into his power supply, to give him the quiet he wanted.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 14:25:40 GMT
I think the first guy was reasonable. When a genny goes on (and it must be audible otherwise how would he know it is on?) one of the stressors is not knowing how long it’s going to be on for. If he finds out “an hour” then there is certainty which makes things much easier. When he bought the house near the canal it might have been 30 years ago when there was not a proliferation of boat dwellers running noisy smokey engines and gennies. If they are new houses, less excuse I suppose. The second lady was obviously a nutter. But is it actually necessary to run your genny outside someone’s house? You are “allowed to” of course, but is it considerate? This is why in balance to the proliferation of CCing boats, there is a proliferation of people complaining about them. Most of it is about noise and smoke, and I can sympathise because I like neither. The guy has lived in the house for three years. I did actually inform others who were sitting in their gardens, but could not see him initially. Given the main line for virgin etc is less than 100yds away, the genny is drowned out by them passing every 15 to 20 mins. I also looked at moving a bit further on, but the whole area is pretty rammed with cruisers. This increasing number of people buying property near a canal, then looking to change the long established rules and regs is getting silly, and only serves to show their own selfish behaviour patterns. It's getting bloody silly. In my view, CRT need to look at making some investment in introducing electric hook ups.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 14:30:43 GMT
She said that the law entitles her to step on your boat, which is of course a lie (she could be related to Trump) I would have said that the law entitles me to kick people off my boat, or hit them with a mooring spike until they ask for more, which is of course a lie too. I was told that if someone boards your boat without your permission you are legally entitled to hang them.
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Post by bargemast on Jul 2, 2018 14:34:22 GMT
She said that the law entitles her to step on your boat, which is of course a lie (she could be related to Trump) I would have said that the law entitles me to kick people off my boat, or hit them with a mooring spike until they ask for more, which is of course a lie too. [/div]
There's no need to be nice to that kind of people that think that they can do anything because they're living in a house next to the canal.
I also would have offered the guy to stop my genny as soon as he'd plugged in my extention cord into his power supply, to give him the quiet he wanted.
Peter.
[/quote] I was told that if someone boards your boat without your permission you are legally entitled to hang them. [/quote][/div]
That was probably written on the next page that I didn't look at, as I was already pleased with the ones I listed
Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 14:34:55 GMT
Invest in electric points or keep navigation open? I know what I'd rather spend their money on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 14:35:15 GMT
Lord Charles I have long believed that putting in some electric points would be a good idea in some locations but would that not mean that CRT would then be entitled to charge a mooring fee /service charge ? Could get a bit dodgy if that happened.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 14:37:28 GMT
She said that the law entitles her to step on your boat, which is of course a lie (she could be related to Trump) I would have said that the law entitles me to kick people off my boat, or hit them with a mooring spike until they ask for more, which is of course a lie too. I was told that if someone boards your boat without your permission you are legally entitled to hang them. Being strictly lawful, you can ask them to leave, if they refuse, you can use reasonable force to remove them. However, it was a woman, and touching her in any way could have escalated the issue, so I just shouted at her. The fact is, this sort of behaviour is now becoming common place.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 14:39:09 GMT
Lord Charles I have long believed that putting in some electric points would be a good idea in some locations but would that not mean that CRT would then be entitled to charge a mooring fee /service charge ? Could get a bit dodgy if that happened. It's all about using common sense, and I know and fully accept CRT are incapable of displaying this.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 14:51:19 GMT
Years ago I was moored between winkwell swing bridge and the next lock going up. On visitor mooring. Two boats mine and my mum's both blatantly lived on with (sociable) lurchers. A woman from a nearby house came and asked "when are you going?" I said "probably tomorrow" the woman looked annoyed then I observed later that there was what appeared to be an estate agent showing people round. I guess she thought our hippy boats covered in flowers were a problem. I just sincerely hope itinerant boaters don't end up with the same sort of hate travellers get. Tarred with the same brush etc. It could go that way and that would be shame. Any better in Southall?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 15:00:29 GMT
Lord Charles I have long believed that putting in some electric points would be a good idea in some locations but would that not mean that CRT would then be entitled to charge a mooring fee /service charge ? Could get a bit dodgy if that happened. It's all about using common sense, and I know and fully accept CRT are incapable of displaying this. What you need is a silent washing machine which works without the need for a generator...and is prepared to wash your pants... ;-)
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Post by bargemast on Jul 2, 2018 15:12:13 GMT
In the town I live in (in France) the town quay has free electrics, and no charges to moor there either, officially it's for visiting boats that are spending their money in town in the shops and restaurants, but there's no sign anywhere saying that it's limited for only 48 hours.
Very often big expensive boats that could easily afford to pay for mooring fees in a harbour stay several weeks, and even have the courage to moan, and scream if someone tries to moor alongside them.
In the recent past, I had to go the the town quay about every 14 days to fill up my tank, and as I saw all the boats at the town quay daily, I knew the ones that were there already for much too long, and if there wasn't enough space along the quay to moor, I would moor alongside one of the long stayers, only if their boats were big and strong, as mine is quite heavy, and when they said they didn't want a boat alongside, I offered them the possibility to liberate their spot that they'd kept for several weeks, and let someone else moor there, that used to be enough to quiet them (most of the time).
Nowadays I don't have to go there anymore, as I have a watertank in my van that I fill up in town, and then fill the tank of my boat simply by gravity as the quay is higher than my watertank filler, much cheaper and less hassle and no screaming mooring abusers to deal with.
There are plenty of other places in France with free electricity at the town moorings, installed by the towns and not by VNF (C&RT equivalent), so a town like Berkhamsted, and many others could possibly do the same.
Peter.
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