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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 16:55:32 GMT
A lovely converted BW tug called Carnaby went up Napton locks for the Cropredy festival, but discovered yesterday they can't get down. Lock 9 is stopping them. A C&RT team turned out, to no avail. It was suggested they turn the boat overnight (top and bottom locks are locked up at 5pm) and the team would try again today. Still no joy today. Apparently Carnaby have a mate with winch equipment who is turning out tomorrow 'tooled up'. C&RT have apologised that they have no such equipment, but have given their blessing for them to 'crack on'. As we came up lock 9, I had a look and our boat had a good 4 inches of room, which would suggest anything well over 7 feet may be the problem. The more knowledgeable may be able to help, but I believe the locks used to be 7'4", so lock 9 is obviously closing. Sad that the navigation authority doesn't have equipment, that at one time would have been standard stuff. As an aside, I noticed when I came by Rose narrow boats a week or two back, that they have a number of work boats now, in their own colours. I may be wrong (it's a common occurence) but I guess they bought them from C&RT like everyone else seems to. No doubt they'll be available to rent back to C&RT as necessary Rog
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 17:03:42 GMT
.... No doubt they'll be available to rent back to C&RT as necessary Rog Parry's style completely, he has no vision and always falls back on his past experience. Nothing will change until he goes.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 15, 2018 17:14:03 GMT
Why should he leave? He may feel very comfortable as Head of CRT. The UK Government has continuously sold its assets, or given them away (graveyard for a penny, anyone remember that?) - privatised the railways and bus services - this is exactly what 'your representatives' want - fat cats rolling in it, liveaboards boaters in squalid shit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 17:34:33 GMT
He wont go until shoved or offered a decent pay off - that is how it works. Will he get shoved, I doubt it, he is good at making friends in the right places.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 15, 2018 17:37:38 GMT
This is how it the World works. Need a Degree in Medicine for work in UK? Buy one in Bombay for £60. To you, my friend, £55.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 17:43:32 GMT
A lovely converted BW tug called Carnaby went up Napton locks for the Cropredy festival, but discovered yesterday they can't get down. Lock 9 is stopping them. A C&RT team turned out, to no avail. It was suggested they turn the boat overnight (top and bottom locks are locked up at 5pm) and the team would try again today. Still no joy today. Apparently Carnaby have a mate with winch equipment who is turning out tomorrow 'tooled up'. C&RT have apologised that they have no such equipment, but have given their blessing for them to 'crack on'. As we came up lock 9, I had a look and our boat had a good 4 inches of room, which would suggest anything well over 7 feet may be the problem. The more knowledgeable may be able to help, but I believe the locks used to be 7'4", so lock 9 is obviously closing. Sad that the navigation authority doesn't have equipment, that at one time would have been standard stuff. As an aside, I noticed when I came by Rose narrow boats a week or two back, that they have a number of work boats now, in their own colours. I may be wrong (it's a common occurence) but I guess they bought them from C&RT like everyone else seems to. No doubt they'll be available to rent back to C&RT as necessary Rog Yes I spotted those boats also, does make you wonder why they feel they have to sell them only to rent from rothens, can’t be that much to maintain? i went up the napton flight last year and remember seeing a sign that mentioned the lock was narrow, but I think that was 2 or 3 one up?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 17:48:52 GMT
This is how it the World works. Need a Degree in Medicine for work in UK? Buy one in Bombay for £60. To you, my friend, £55. FFS stop diverting the issue with stuff about India/China/EU. If we can't get something like this right then that is our problem not the world's. Some stuff is global but not this. <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 27.279999999999973px; height: 2.9200000000000017px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_19560756" scrolling="no" width="27.279999999999973" height="2.9200000000000017"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 27.28px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1300px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_19732250" scrolling="no" width="27.279999999999973" height="2.9200000000000017"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 27.28px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 87px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_17000386" scrolling="no" width="27.279999999999973" height="2.9200000000000017"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 27.28px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1300px; top: 87px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_8812208" scrolling="no" width="27.279999999999973" height="2.9200000000000017"></iframe>
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 18:04:26 GMT
A lovely converted BW tug called Carnaby went up Napton locks for the Cropredy festival, but discovered yesterday they can't get down. Lock 9 is stopping them. A C&RT team turned out, to no avail. It was suggested they turn the boat overnight (top and bottom locks are locked up at 5pm) and the team would try again today. Still no joy today. Apparently Carnaby have a mate with winch equipment who is turning out tomorrow 'tooled up'. C&RT have apologised that they have no such equipment, but have given their blessing for them to 'crack on'. As we came up lock 9, I had a look and our boat had a good 4 inches of room, which would suggest anything well over 7 feet may be the problem. The more knowledgeable may be able to help, but I believe the locks used to be 7'4", so lock 9 is obviously closing. Sad that the navigation authority doesn't have equipment, that at one time would have been standard stuff. As an aside, I noticed when I came by Rose narrow boats a week or two back, that they have a number of work boats now, in their own colours. I may be wrong (it's a common occurence) but I guess they bought them from C&RT like everyone else seems to. No doubt they'll be available to rent back to C&RT as necessary Rog Yes I spotted those boats also, does make you wonder why they feel they have to sell them only to rent from rothens, can’t be that much to maintain? i went up the napton flight last year and remember seeing a sign that mentioned the lock was narrow, but I think that was 2 or 3 one up? I should have said, lock 9 is the second from the bottom. There are notices below and above warning boaters NOT to leave fenders down. Rog
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 15, 2018 18:10:36 GMT
A lovely converted BW tug called Carnaby went up Napton locks for the Cropredy festival, but discovered yesterday they can't get down. Lock 9 is stopping them. A C&RT team turned out, to no avail. It was suggested they turn the boat overnight (top and bottom locks are locked up at 5pm) and the team would try again today. Still no joy today. Apparently Carnaby have a mate with winch equipment who is turning out tomorrow 'tooled up'. C&RT have apologised that they have no such equipment, but have given their blessing for them to 'crack on'. As we came up lock 9, I had a look and our boat had a good 4 inches of room, which would suggest anything well over 7 feet may be the problem. The more knowledgeable may be able to help, but I believe the locks used to be 7'4", so lock 9 is obviously closing. Sad that the navigation authority doesn't have equipment, that at one time would have been standard stuff. As an aside, I noticed when I came by Rose narrow boats a week or two back, that they have a number of work boats now, in their own colours. I may be wrong (it's a common occurence) but I guess they bought them from C&RT like everyone else seems to. No doubt they'll be available to rent back to C&RT as necessary Rog Yes I spotted those boats also, does make you wonder why they feel they have to sell them only to rent from rothens, can’t be that much to maintain? How about asking CRT why they have sold all their gear only to have to rent it back. I suspect there would come some bland waffle-waffle answer. Selling stuff, which used to belong to the public, to your friends grease the wheels at the golf club. We all know that the way to run things properly and efficiently is not something managements anywhere ever want to hear. You need to have vision and planning nous, and plans should stretch for up to, let's say, 50 years. Management needs to have enthusiasm - but, sadly, these days it's all about getting yourself a tattoo and joining the office lesbians club, and staring at your Facebook pages all day long. Mr Parry could go round the canals and waterways, for instance, chatting with boaters, asking how they are, how they would like to see things. He's never come to greet us and welcome us to the canals. He could spare a day a week to carry out this task which, if it were me, I would see as a pleasure. What better to immerse yourself in the quirky world of pleasure boating and meet all the weirdos; who generally turn out to be some of the finest people in the country, I have discovered. It's not easy to be a manager and keep all the strings in your hands, but for the canals you need to have enthusiasm and be a fighter against this languid Government and all the selfish MPs. You need to have boaters and the volunteers on your side and have a coherent force to keep the canals not just in good working order, but to forge ahead and get some of these planned new canals (or old ones re-opened) sorted straight away - not next century! Freight - yes, get this up and running, too! Of course it will be small scale, but that's something. Any 'manager' can save money by shutting things down. It's the clever manager who can keep things not just going but make them better and better. The weather this Summer has to be taken into account (no rain for months), but then CRT have not been supervising lock use properly, and we all know that there is not a lock gate in the land that is not spurting water all over the shop! How many boaters dare put the nose of their boat up against the front wall of a lock when going up - we've rarely had the chance for our front fender to creep up the rubbing board, out of fear of our cratch being swamped! Credit to the carpenters at Stanley Ferry workshop where they make lock gates, we had a quick tour last year and were mightily impressed. It's not their fault that management won't keep tabs on what needs doing. The re-branding, which has cost millions - what a squandering that has been! Heads should roll over that! ...but, have they? The closure of canals recently shows that all is Not Well. It should be a National Scandal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 18:21:05 GMT
National scandal? Please try to keep a sense of proportion. NHS performance is a life and death issue. Pensions, Defence budgets, Brexit, are of national importance. Management of the waterways is important and significant but let us not pretend it's a 'national scandal'. Only my view... others are available Rog
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 18:30:26 GMT
Yes I spotted those boats also, does make you wonder why they feel they have to sell them only to rent from rothens, can’t be that much to maintain? How about ..... It should be a National Scandal. Good post in my view. Couple of comments;
What happens to the canals and how it affects boaters will never be a national scandal, there are just to few boaters to warrant that - hence the need to get 'others' onboard.
The 'top boss' should not need to spend very much time away from the office to understand boaters let alone a day a week. Understanding boaters should should be a per-requisite of the job with just occasional outings to check that what you are doing isn't making things worse for them and alienating a significant income stream.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 15, 2018 18:35:19 GMT
Management of the waterways is important and significant but let us not pretend it's a 'national scandal'. In my view, wanton destruction of Britain's assets - it's infrastructure and history - is a national scandal. In fact, possibly treasonous! What be this about new 'Treason Laws' which I found out about today? "There is something very wrong with a country, steeped in tradition and history has to renew and update treason laws. The greatest treason is committed daily by both houses of Westminster and the police with powers that would be the envy of a banana republic. Once you have to update laws such as treason you have to look very carefully about not only what is given but what is taken away. I see and hear treasonous acts daily. What scares me is who is being protected by this update and who will be regarded as treacherous overnight?" And, yes, Rog, we do lift our fenders in narrow locks - Hurleston, Lapworth, and all those with the wobbly walls.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 18:40:59 GMT
Management of the waterways is important and significant but let us not pretend it's a 'national scandal'. In my view, wanton destruction of Britain's assets - it's infrastructure and history - is a national scandal. In fact, possibly treasonous! What be this about new 'Treason Laws' which I found out about today? "There is something very wrong with a country, steeped in tradition and history has to renew and update treason laws. The greatest treason is committed daily by both houses of Westminster and the police with powers that would be the envy of a banana republic. Once you have to update laws such as treason you have to look very carefully about not only what is given but what is taken away. I see and hear treasonous acts daily. What scares me is who is being protected by this update and who will be regarded as treacherous overnight?" And, yes, Rog, we do lift our fenders in narrow locks - Hurleston, Lapworth, and all those with the wobbly walls. WTF does treason laws have to do with CRT! Good luck with changing how CRT operate by applying Treason legislation......
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 15, 2018 18:55:21 GMT
How about ..... It should be a National Scandal.
The 'top boss' should not need to spend very much time away from the office to understand boaters let alone a day a week. Understanding boaters should should be a per-requisite of the job with just occasional outings to check that what you are doing isn't making things worse for them and alienating a significant income stream.
I think it would be a good moral boost for everyone if the 'Managing Director' was enthusiastic about his domain and actually wanted to go round and see how it's all going and is everyone happy. Of course, there will always be moaners, but the trick is to make these happy too. You need a firm hand, but you need to be fair, and to be seen being fair. If he is any good he can do his job in 4 days and have Day 5 as an 'off day' in which he goes round inspecting all he rules over and making sure it is in tip-top condition. I don't think anyone here has ever asked this, but can anyone make a list of the Good Things CRT have done since they came into existence, and a list of the Bad Things they have done in that time? In what way are they better or worse than their predecessor British Waterways? Perhaps they actually are better than what went on before... perhaps they are worse...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 19:01:51 GMT
The 'top boss' should not need to spend very much time away from the office to understand boaters let alone a day a week. Understanding boaters should should be a per-requisite of the job with just occasional outings to check that what you are doing isn't making things worse for them and alienating a significant income stream.
.... I don't think anyone here has ever asked this, but can anyone make a list of the Good Things CRT have done since they came into existence, and a list of the Bad Things they have done in that time? In what way are they better or worse than their predecessor British Waterways? Perhaps they actually are better than what went on before... perhaps they are worse... See, once you stop thrashing the donkeys of the world you start to speak sense.
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