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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 6, 2018 19:36:19 GMT
I've been on a few. I haven't made a list, but here's a quick think of the First Aid courses I've been on: Hertford bus garage (about 6 lessons over a period of a couple of months) (1987-ish) Helsinki City Transport - at least three (between 1991-2011) Up here in Kokkola once. Well, that's 5 so far. I have sometimes thought about what to do if someone, for instance, on my bus, becomes suddenly ill. There are a lot of don't and do's to remember. It's not just heart attacks. There's diabetes comas, unconsciousness, epileptic fits, broken bones, cuts, choking on food, poisoning with food or drugs... a lot to think about and very quickly, seconds may count. I'll give you an example, but this is related to an accident/vehicle breaking down - yes, everyone sticks on their 4-way flashers and phones to the emergency services, how many people think to stick a warning triangle some distance from the vehicle to let other traffic be aware, or send people in either direction to attract attention to the incident? Back/spinal injury - in how many movies do you see people trying to lift someone up? Shouldn't you leave them in that position in case you cause further damage? (unless there's a fire or other danger present, electric cable flailing around, etc.). Motorcyclist crash - don't remove that helmet unless you want to see their brains spill all over the pavement!!
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 6, 2018 19:38:15 GMT
What make and model is that one Mark? HOPE to god we never have to use it but given our demographic, it's a possibility I suppose. Can't you practice on Andy?
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Post by peterboat on Nov 6, 2018 21:16:32 GMT
By the time you've phoned someone to ask for the code to open the box, finally got it open and spent 10 minutes reading the instructions, the heart-attack victim is snuffit. (Is it right to call them a 'victim' if they've been stuffing pie & chips into their mouths all their lives?) Every time I've participated in a First Aid course the number of breaths to the number of thumpings you're supposed to give keeps changing. Last I heard was 2 breaths to 2 pushes. Unless you've had experience and/or a lot of practice with this sort of CPR (Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation), do you really reckon you can even remember where you're supposed to push? Are you allowed to push so hard you can break their ribs or not? Don't forget to pinch their nose whilst breathing into their mouth, or the air will just escape! Don't forget first to fish around in their vomit for any false teeth! And what to do if it's a woman and you've removed her shirt, she regains consciousness and accuses you of attempted rape? Look away if you're scared of Skellingtons! Foxy its 1,2,3,4,5 pushes then 1 breath it works as I know from experience, on the one that got away i continued for 15 minutes and thought I had run a marathon!!
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 6, 2018 21:30:11 GMT
Noooooooooo............... Gazza says 30 to 2! But seriously, every course I've gone on has come up with different figures, and I have read First Aid books also - some say this, some say that, whilst you scratch your head, matey is dead. I think I'd go for 18 pushes to 2 breaths. Don't forget that plastic mouthpiece, though, in case the casualty has AIDS. Or worse.
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Post by Jim on Nov 7, 2018 13:55:59 GMT
By the time you've phoned someone to ask for the code to open the box, finally got it open and spent 10 minutes reading the instructions, the heart-attack victim is snuffit. (Is it right to call them a 'victim' if they've been stuffing pie & chips into their mouths all their lives?) Every time I've participated in a First Aid course the number of breaths to the number of thumpings you're supposed to give keeps changing. Last I heard was 2 breaths to 2 pushes. Unless you've had experience and/or a lot of practice with this sort of CPR (Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation), do you really reckon you can even remember where you're supposed to push? Are you allowed to push so hard you can break their ribs or not? Don't forget to pinch their nose whilst breathing into their mouth, or the air will just escape! Don't forget first to fish around in their vomit for any false teeth! And what to do if it's a woman and you've removed her shirt, she regains consciousness and accuses you of attempted rape? Look away if you're scared of Skellingtons! OK, so if we find you lolling about after a thrombie we won't bother. Mark says kit needs a razor. For you we need Swarfega, or will it work through a layer of oil? I keep my FAAW up to date, due next February. But that's for kids with broken arms, when I push them off stilts etc. I was once windsurfing and saw someone collapse in a rowing boat. With no wind, I just swam the 20m or so, to find he was an epileptic, fit triggered by sparkle on the water. So instead of getting a gong I got a free trip on the rescue boat back to my board.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 7, 2018 14:54:09 GMT
By the time you've phoned someone to ask for the code to open the box, finally got it open and spent 10 minutes reading the instructions, the heart-attack victim is snuffit. (Is it right to call them a 'victim' if they've been stuffing pie & chips into their mouths all their lives?) Every time I've participated in a First Aid course the number of breaths to the number of thumpings you're supposed to give keeps changing. Last I heard was 2 breaths to 2 pushes. Unless you've had experience and/or a lot of practice with this sort of CPR (Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation), do you really reckon you can even remember where you're supposed to push? Are you allowed to push so hard you can break their ribs or not? Don't forget to pinch their nose whilst breathing into their mouth, or the air will just escape! Don't forget first to fish around in their vomit for any false teeth! And what to do if it's a woman and you've removed her shirt, she regains consciousness and accuses you of attempted rape? Look away if you're scared of Skellingtons! I was once windsurfing and saw someone collapse in a rowing boat. With no wind, I just swam the 20m or so, to find he was an epileptic, fit triggered by sparkle on the water. Reminds me of these comments. I'm sure everyone here is aware of the Pret-a-Manger 'scandal': "It seems these days that you cannot board a plane without a warning coming over the Tannoy announcing that “a passenger is allergic to peanuts” and for whom the merest whiff of a peanut will kill them. In such circumstances, we tend to roll our eyes and think “whatever”. Such thoughts are caused by snowflakes crying wolf over allergies; your average millennial now being burdened with lactose intolerance, gluten intolerance and so forth. Returning to genuine sufferers, some responsibility must lie with them to be cautious. Peanuts are ubiquitous, so it must be a trial to avoid these foodstuffs and their toxic vapours. If I feared for my life in such a manner, I would go and live on a remote Scottish Island, but, no, they have to go jetting around the world spoiling my inflight meals. The deaths associated with Pret a Manger are tragic. However, it should be noted that Pret was operating within the law – the company having no requirement to list ingredients on its in-house products. If I were a sufferer, and merely eating a sandwich required me to inject adrenalin in order to avoid death, I would be somewhat circumspect about which fast food outlet I bought from. Certainly, I would be armed with a knowledge of the law on ingredients listing. I definitely would not board an aircraft with a mystery sandwich knowing that I would be 5 hours away from medical care. I might even make some butties at home. You see, I have an aversion to my own death. The victims that come to the attention of the media are pretty, middle class, millennial females." "A schoolgirl was murdered by a fast food shop owner who joked that she had been "chopped up" and put into kebabs, a court was told yesterday. The prosecution alleged at Preston Crown Court that Charlene Downes, 14, was killed by Iyad Albattikhi, 29, owner of a food shop in Blackpool, who had sex with her. No trace of Charlene's body has ever been found. Albattikhi, a Jordanian immigrant, is charged with murder. His business partner and landlord, Mohammed Reveshi, 50, is accused of helping dispose of the body." Surprise! It's from The Telegraph! www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1552482/Missing-girls-body-put-into-kebab.html
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Post by Jim on Nov 7, 2018 15:10:10 GMT
I was once windsurfing and saw someone collapse in a rowing boat. With no wind, I just swam the 20m or so, to find he was an epileptic, fit triggered by sparkle on the water. Reminds me of these comments. I'm sure everyone here is aware of the Pret-a-Manger 'scandal': "It seems these days that you cannot board a plane without a warning coming over the Tannoy announcing that “a passenger is allergic to peanuts” and for whom the merest whiff of a peanut will kill them. In such circumstances, we tend to roll our eyes and think “whatever”. Such thoughts are caused by snowflakes crying wolf over allergies; your average millennial now being burdened with lactose intolerance, gluten intolerance and so forth. Returning to genuine sufferers, some responsibility must lie with them to be cautious. Peanuts are ubiquitous, so it must be a trial to avoid these foodstuffs and their toxic vapours. If I feared for my life in such a manner, I would go and live on a remote Scottish Island, but, no, they have to go jetting around the world spoiling my inflight meals. The deaths associated with Pret a Manger are tragic. However, it should be noted that Pret was operating within the law – the company having no requirement to list ingredients on its in-house products. If I were a sufferer, and merely eating a sandwich required me to inject adrenalin in order to avoid death, I would be somewhat circumspect about which fast food outlet I bought from. Certainly, I would be armed with a knowledge of the law on ingredients listing. I definitely would not board an aircraft with a mystery sandwich knowing that I would be 5 hours away from medical care. I might even make some butties at home. You see, I have an aversion to my own death. The victims that come to the attention of the media are pretty, middle class, millennial females." "A schoolgirl was murdered by a fast food shop owner who joked that she had been "chopped up" and put into kebabs, a court was told yesterday. The prosecution alleged at Preston Crown Court that Charlene Downes, 14, was killed by Iyad Albattikhi, 29, owner of a food shop in Blackpool, who had sex with her. No trace of Charlene's body has ever been found. Albattikhi, a Jordanian immigrant, is charged with murder. His business partner and landlord, Mohammed Reveshi, 50, is accused of helping dispose of the body." Surprise! It's from The Telegraph! www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1552482/Missing-girls-body-put-into-kebab.htmlOf the numbers of murders last year or this or whenever, how many murderers had foreign names, how many were white middle aged men?
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 10, 2018 22:02:35 GMT
In case looking at all the prostitutes adverts gets you too excited?
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Post by Jim on Nov 11, 2018 7:47:32 GMT
In case looking at all the prostitutes adverts gets you too excited? Non sequiteurs r us eh?
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