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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 10:06:16 GMT
www.northantstelegraph.co.uk/news/kettering-man-cautioned-after-causing-chaos-in-wellingborough-by-dumping-fake-bomb-in-bin-1-8735016This bit got me :- Chief Superintendent Mick Stamper added: “The man dressed up in a costume with a fake explosive attached to his body believing it was OK because he was going to a private function. It was not OK. "Even if he had stayed at the function, it is still an offence to dress up in any way that would either intentionally put people in fear of violence or that would be perceived as racially or religiously aggravated – such offences can be committed anywhere other than a private dwelling. “This man now has police record simply because he didn’t think through his actions. So how come Prince Harry hasn't got a record following his night on the tiles with a Swastika on his sleeve?
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 11, 2018 11:02:05 GMT
www.northantstelegraph.co.uk/news/kettering-man-cautioned-after-causing-chaos-in-wellingborough-by-dumping-fake-bomb-in-bin-1-8735016This bit got me :- Chief Superintendent Mick Stamper added: “The man dressed up in a costume with a fake explosive attached to his body believing it was OK because he was going to a private function. It was not OK. "Even if he had stayed at the function, it is still an offence to dress up in any way that would either intentionally put people in fear of violence or that would be perceived as racially or religiously aggravated – such offences can be committed anywhere other than a private dwelling. “This man now has police record simply because he didn’t think through his actions. So how come Prince Harry hasn't got a record following his night on the tiles with a Swastika on his sleeve? Because it’s not an offence to wear a swasticka. It is an offence to pretend you are wearing a bomb.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 11:13:54 GMT
www.northantstelegraph.co.uk/news/kettering-man-cautioned-after-causing-chaos-in-wellingborough-by-dumping-fake-bomb-in-bin-1-8735016This bit got me :- Chief Superintendent Mick Stamper added: “The man dressed up in a costume with a fake explosive attached to his body believing it was OK because he was going to a private function. It was not OK. "Even if he had stayed at the function, it is still an offence to dress up in any way that would either intentionally put people in fear of violence or that would be perceived as racially or religiously aggravated – such offences can be committed anywhere other than a private dwelling. “This man now has police record simply because he didn’t think through his actions. So how come Prince Harry hasn't got a record following his night on the tiles with a Swastika on his sleeve? Because it’s not an offence to wear a swasticka. It is an offence to pretend you are wearing a bomb. CSI Mr Stamper 'it is still an offence to dress up in any way that would either intentionally put people in fear of violence or that would be perceived as racially or religiously aggravated' Seeing as the Swastika is associated with racially motivated crimes stretching back to the early 1930's if what our flat footed friend says above is true Harry should have gone on the naughty step too.
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Post by thebfg on Dec 11, 2018 13:08:04 GMT
was it the fact that he dressed that way the offence or that he discarded part of the outfit in a bin the offence.
if they really thought it was a bomb who took a fucking photo of it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 13:30:06 GMT
was it the fact that he dressed that way the offence or that he discarded part of the outfit in a bin the offence. if they really thought it was a bomb who took a fucking photo of it. I was just speaking to a lad on the shop floor, apparently the old boy had a right good night - no hassle from the doorman or plod who are always milling about round that end of town. No one was offended and plod didn't seem to think it a problem that evening - despite what the CSI says! I would hazard a guess Wellingborough is not on the map for places to carry out a suicide attack - they wouldn't get many casualties when you consider how quite it is of a weekend night these days!
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 11, 2018 16:01:20 GMT
Chief Superintendent Mick Stamper added "Even if he had stayed at the function, it is still an offence to dress up in any way that would either intentionally put people in fear of violence"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 16:02:51 GMT
You've been to my kids school I see
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 11, 2018 16:26:09 GMT
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 11, 2018 17:55:05 GMT
Because it’s not an offence to wear a swasticka. It is an offence to pretend you are wearing a bomb. CSI Mr Stamper 'it is still an offence to dress up in any way that would either intentionally put people in fear of violence or that would be perceived as racially or religiously aggravated' Seeing as the Swastika is associated with racially motivated crimes stretching back to the early 1930's if what our flat footed friend says above is true Harry should have gone on the naughty step too. Well he’s not quoting the law directly nor explaining it clearly and accurately. It is not an offence to wear a swastika armband, unless you were pretending to be some kind of resurrected nazi to the extent that people were alarmed. It seems unlikely that anyone seeing Harry with an armband would actually be fearful of him. The plod isn’t explaining that first you have to put people in fear of violence etc, and only then is it aggravated if there is a racial/religious element. It isn’t an offence to demonstrate bad taste and bad judgement. It isn’t an offence to cause offence, other than in very specific circumstances. Which is just as well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 17:58:37 GMT
Stamper is a funny name for a copper. I can imagine him stamping on the ground while trying to get some sort of point across.
Or is it a joke name
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 11, 2018 18:07:48 GMT
That is quite a good clip.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 19:40:00 GMT
CSI Mr Stamper 'it is still an offence to dress up in any way that would either intentionally put people in fear of violence or that would be perceived as racially or religiously aggravated' Seeing as the Swastika is associated with racially motivated crimes stretching back to the early 1930's if what our flat footed friend says above is true Harry should have gone on the naughty step too. Well he’s not quoting the law directly nor explaining it clearly and accurately. It is not an offence to wear a swastika armband, unless you were pretending to be some kind of resurrected nazi to the extent that people were alarmed. It seems unlikely that anyone seeing Harry with an armband would actually be fearful of him. The plod isn’t explaining that first you have to put people in fear of violence etc, and only then is it aggravated if there is a racial/religious element. It isn’t an offence to demonstrate bad taste and bad judgement. It isn’t an offence to cause offence, other than in very specific circumstances. Which is just as well. The lad was from Kettering, he can't help it I think CIS Stamper was speaking for all the snowflakes when he came out with that load of dribble in the ET - I wonder if he has a list of banned and illegal fancy dress costumes pinned up in his office.
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 11, 2018 19:50:59 GMT
I assure you, I shall not be taking something like this to the airport with me.
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Post by thebfg on Dec 11, 2018 19:56:03 GMT
i can only presume he had a rubbish duty solicitor.
copper says the way he dressed, but that does not seem to be the issue. surely the fear of violance came from people believing there was a bomb in the bin.
what it's got to do with religion or race is beyond me. i did look through the charging guidelines and it looks a bit iffy
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 20:04:08 GMT
i can only presume he had a rubbish duty solicitor. copper says the way he dressed, but that does not seem to be the issue. surely the fear of violance came from people believing there was a bomb in the bin. what it's got to do with religion or race is beyond me. i did look through the charging guidelines and it looks a bit iffy Over the last couple of days according to this morning's BBC Northampton breakfast show our local plod has dealt with 1 murder, two attempted murders, 2 rape cases, 290 other crimes and answered over 1000 calls - nice to see CIS Stamper is tackling the biggest threat to our safety head on - you know, a pissed up lad from Kettering with a rubbish fake suicide vest out on the tiles in a backward little town is the thing that's going to bring society down and cause unrest among the local community.
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