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Post by Graham on Mar 11, 2019 18:22:20 GMT
I doubt anyone is interested, in fact someone said the other day in another place that I had been chased away from here. Nothing is further from the truth. This week is the first time in a year I have had time to breath and relax for me.
As some know I care for a lady with Asperger etc and help boaters, I visit boaters on average twice to three days a week and have gone from one end of the country to the other to see boaters in trouble plus have in the last year installed approximately £50,000 worth of LiFePO4 systems, BTW that is the trade price which is what the boater pays. It been a lovely year I have not made a penny which was the target, cannot bear HMRC, and there are a few boaters out there who are happier with their electrics and understand them a bit more than when I arrived.. Tomorrow a new year starts and Thursday or Friday a 450Ah LiFePO4 system arrives to be installed on a boat on a boat next week.
If you want the LiFePO4 to last and give of their best life etc, don't subject them to high charge levels, it shortens their lives and don't full charge them, both things the BMSs do not cope with or control. Keep their rate of charge to about 50A per 100Ah, OK it lengthens the the charging time, but does not stress the batteries by causing a temperature rise of 20C/30C On one boat I visited the charge level was so high the BMS was stopping charging as it was taking the batteries over the maximum 50C. Not good for the batteries nor the alternators. I am aware of several alternator being burnt out by being worked to hard when kept at high level of charge for the alternator for over an hour or so.
Somewhere I think someone has posted that LiFePO4 stay at the same level of the charge and do not reduce the level of charge as the batteries charge. Up to a few weeks ago I would not have argued about it, but a system had a funny fault in the control system and the only way to check the fault was truly cleared was to recharge the batteries from 50% discharged. The rate of charge was reducing all the way through the charging cycle. Not anywhere near the rate it reduces with lead acid and at approximately 98% charged was still giving 25A into a 300A bank. Now I will hopefully be able to repeat the exercise on larger banks and see if it was something else that was affecting the current drop. Maybe the Starter battery which later was proved to be faulty, so needs more actual with big banks.
Look after yourselves you crazy lovely lot
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 18:57:06 GMT
Nice to hear from you Graham 👍🍻
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Post by JohnV on Mar 11, 2019 19:03:07 GMT
If you want the LiFePO4 to last and give of their best life etc, don't subject them to high charge levels, it shortens their lives and don't full charge them, both things the BMSs do not cope with or control. Keep their rate of charge to about 50A per 100Ah, OK it lengthens the the charging time, but does not stress the batteries by 50A per 100Ah bloomin heck that is about my maximum charge rate welcome back !!!
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Post by Graham on Mar 11, 2019 19:15:34 GMT
If you want the LiFePO4 to last and give of their best life etc, don't subject them to high charge levels, it shortens their lives and don't full charge them, both things the BMSs do not cope with or control. Keep their rate of charge to about 50A per 100Ah, OK it lengthens the the charging time, but does not stress the batteries by 50A per 100Ah bloomin heck that is about my maximum charge rate welcome back !!! Thank you both, I do not know how often you will see this oldie, but I will try harder in the next year
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 11, 2019 19:18:31 GMT
Ah so having moved on to LiFePO4, we can no longer argue about hydrometer vs refractometer. Shame!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 19:24:29 GMT
I prefer refractometers
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 19:38:53 GMT
Ah...but does a refractometer tell you how alcoholic your home brew is likely to be?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 19:41:37 GMT
Not tried that one !
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Post by Graham on Mar 11, 2019 19:44:04 GMT
Ah so having moved on to LiFePO4, we can no longer argue about hydrometer vs refractometer. Shame! Lol I use a hydrometer about once a month lol - normally know the answer before I get it out lol from the smell
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Post by patty on Mar 11, 2019 19:50:59 GMT
Not sure I understand hydrometer v refractometers or LifePO4 but welcome back anyway......
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Post by Graham on Mar 11, 2019 19:58:20 GMT
Not sure I understand hydrometer v refractometers or LifePO4 but welcome back anyway...... Hello lovely lady are you well ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 20:46:37 GMT
Ah...but does a refractometer tell you how alcoholic your home brew is likely to be? It will do when you apply a small calculation to it! Or using your original gravity to make an adjustment! But as I'm sure you know, hydrometer is easier and it's an excuse to try out your tasty beer. www.brewersfriend.com/refractometer-calculator/
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 11, 2019 20:55:56 GMT
Ah...but does a refractometer tell you how alcoholic your home brew is likely to be? Yes.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 11, 2019 21:51:08 GMT
Ah...but does a refractometer tell you how alcoholic your home brew is likely to be? Does it matter? journey into space or lunatics broth ..... it'll still go down the same way !!!
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Post by peterboat on Mar 11, 2019 23:20:22 GMT
Welcome back Graham. John and I have already adopted LifePo4s, I have 4 of them for leisure and 10 for drive. and john has 4 for leisure. Neither of us charges above 80%, I do see very high charge rates which ramp down very fast, today my bank was fully charged I turned on the kettle over 60 amps going into the bank minutes later it just dropped to a couple of amps, and it wasnt because the sun had stopped shining!
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