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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 8:36:46 GMT
Anyone tell me how to convert a generator so it can fire missiles at Hudsons...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 8:38:29 GMT
Placing a sandwich board on towpath is obstructing a public right of way. Out of order.
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Post by kris on Aug 28, 2019 8:44:13 GMT
Thing is, what are those of us who live on our boats meant to do? OK, a decent solar array sorts the matter for 8 months of the year, providing we have a gas water heater. Maybe I'm on my own here but I'd much prefer to have to listen to the relative quiet 'put put' of a quiet Honda (or equivalent) genny rather than the horrible constant low pitch drone of a modern diesel engine. I have a good slab of solar and a wind turbine. In the depths of winter I run my small Kippor generator for 1 to 3 hours, every 1 or 2 days. Fortunately, during the depths of winter, most of the shiny boats that live mostly in marinas have gone back to sleep (too cold I guess) leaving a smaller number of boaters, who realise and understand that running a device to charge the batteries within the permitted hours is essential. So I am not unreasonable about it, I just don’t see why it has to be open season for generators to be run on popular visitor moorings full or people trying to relax. I suppose this is another example of how people who use the waterways in different ways have differing expectations of behaviour. Whilst I'm not condoning the behaviour of the idiot who moored up started his generator and dissapeared to the pub. By the way I would have probably turned his generator off as you wished you had done, because what he did is rude. But as a livaboard boater I'm probably a bit more accepting of generator noise than a boater who is on their summer holiday, who expects it to be quiet and relaxing everywhere they go. This is not meant in a derogatory way, leasure use of the waterways is as valid and as important to the survival of the waterways as any other use. It's just an observation of the differing expectations.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 8:44:14 GMT
"A spoonful of sugar makes the generator go down" Mary Poppins. My friend left his old Chorehorse generator running on the river bank at Lechlade many years ago. Relaxing watching telly nobody about a splash he got out of boat to see only cows and generator in the river. Turns out other boaters are not the only ones getting annoyed Ever since I moved onto a boat in 1994 the "listening to other peoples noise" issue is one which has always annoyed me and always will. Its just a nuisance that's all. In winter I use less power than in summer. No fridge for example. Why useba fridge in winter anyway??
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Post by kris on Aug 28, 2019 8:47:44 GMT
"A spoonful of sugar makes the generator go down" Mary Poppins. Ever since I moved onto a boat in 1994 the "listening to other peoples noise" issue is one which has always annoyed me and always will. Its just a nuisance that's all. Yes but you accept it as part of living on the water. Whereas to a leasure boater on their summer holidays, it is a major obstacle to their enjoyment.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 8:52:46 GMT
In the situation referrered to I would consult with another boater and suggest turning off the generator and leaving a note pointing out they must have forgotten it.
Its dangerous to leave machinery unattended.
I have done this before with an overly noisy engine. Just wondering now if it would be interesting to stop a nuisance generator using a CO2 fire extinguisher.
One of the obvious problems is generators are marketed as much quieter than they actually are. Sometimes even "silent" when they are in fact very loud when under load.
Dishonest marketing leading to people having inappropriate gennies.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 28, 2019 9:09:51 GMT
I think perhaps the most annoying issue with engine and generator running is not knowing how long it is going to go on for. If you know it will be 30 mins, an hour, or whatever it is much easier to tolerate than the thing running, owners inside with curtains drawn and no idea when it will stop. It is the uncertainty that is a good chunk of the problem.
I have once wanted to run our engine (which is extremely quiet) when on a visitor mooring out of hours (ie around 9pm) because we had been staying a couple of days in Birmingham and were unexpectedly late back to the boat. No boats behind, one in front. I duly knocked on their boat and explained, said would they mind if I ran the engine for 30 mins. “No problem” they said, and thanked me for asking. This seems to be the way to do it without annoying people so much.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 9:52:34 GMT
Exactly that ... we moored on 48 hour moorings at Hartshill ... winter so just us and a boat a couple of lengths in front. About 10pm a guy knocked on our boat ... been on afters and just finished, sorry but he needs to run his engine for an hour. I have no problem with that considerate approach. Actually I have no problem with low humming noises anyway ... just sends me to sleep ... takes me back to being a toddler when my sainted Mum would be vac'ing or washing By the way @someboater ... the sandwich board was on her roof Rog
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 9:59:54 GMT
Bye laws prohibit the display of signage on boats without the board's prior approval.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 10:01:55 GMT
You can't have people taking a mooring a d then advertising to others that they are antisocial.
That is the wrong approach to use of a public amenity.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 28, 2019 10:02:11 GMT
Bye laws prohibit the display of signage on boats without the board's prior approval. Oh! Does that mean all those annoying PASS AT TICKOVER signs are unlawful? Excellent!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 10:05:25 GMT
That was exactly the complaints I heard from a group of share boaters ... only they were serious The boat was moored in the most inhospitable spot where it would have required a huge effort to try and moor next door. Mind you ... that's the type of spot I picked last night ... but people still attempted Rog
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 28, 2019 11:12:12 GMT
Bye laws prohibit the display of signage on boats without the board's prior approval. Oh! Does that mean all those annoying PASS AT TICKOVER signs are unlawful? Excellent! Saw one the other day: "master boaters pass at 2mph. Masturbaters pass faster."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 11:31:59 GMT
I reckon no.47 covers it "on any canal" presumably includes on a boat.
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Post by Jim on Aug 28, 2019 11:32:00 GMT
Oh! Does that mean all those annoying PASS AT TICKOVER signs are unlawful? Excellent! Saw one the other day: "master boaters pass at 2mph. Masturbaters pass faster." Just came up Stanley Ferry at 4mph, its deep and wide, my boat draws .5 mtr. So only ripples were reaching the bank, boats were hardly mooring, still got a shout, "should be at tickover". Nonsense. Then went by 10 fishists on the river, 3/4 way across the river to give them room, one still had a whinge. What is it with Yorkshiremen?
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