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Post by PaulG2 on Sept 1, 2016 20:29:44 GMT
So what does happen to the sludge from huge sewage works? Who takes it where? It all sounds a bit mysterious to me, and I bet it just gets put in barges and dumped at sea anyway, at night, when no-one's looking. Perhaps I should ask where Himanka's sewage works is located, and find out more... well, if I have time... but you know me, I'm the one that claims all this 're-cycling' is bogus and everything just gets chucked into the landfill - I mean, everyone's done their bit, right? And everyone is ignorant, and happy to be ignorant. It's like giving 50p to Cancer Research and feeling all rosy. I mean - a container for glass bottles. Now where does all that smashed glass with the labels go to? It's all different coloured glass, and whay of the liquids left in the bottles? And all the other rubbish people have thrown into that bottles bin, partly because the other bins are choc-a-bloc full (see my photo album this evening for evidence!), and partly 'cos they couldn't care less. Is there a factory of oompah-loompahs sorting all the fragments out and soaking off the labels? This is a link to an article that answers your questions for your specific geographic location. Composting of waste water sludge in Helsinki, Finland and Kohtla-Järve, Estonia. Photos: HSY Water and OÜ Järve Biopuhastus.
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Post by canaldweller on Sept 1, 2016 20:30:10 GMT
I like the way everybody is an expert, yet have no experience of compost loos. Clean water is becoming a rare commodity, if you where designing a system to deal with human waste now you would not have it use so much clean fresh water. But most people just want to flush the loo and forget all about it. The same as they just want to flick a switch the light come on and not think about it. People who livaboard boats take responsibility for generating power why not take responsibility for their shit? One of the next things I'll be making is a water filtration system for my grey water and to be able to take water from the cut and use it. I take it you intend to get a license for all this water extraction you're planning.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 20:44:26 GMT
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Post by peterboat on Sept 2, 2016 12:20:58 GMT
As Kris says you are all experts but 6 years on I still get rid of my shit in a friends composting bin which he uses on his garden, he is going to fit a composting loo as well. I fitted a composting loo in a friends boat last month which she says makes her life a lot easier not carrying heavy boxes of shit to the elsan point. And yesterday we were designing a loo in a friends boat in Sheffield using components from off grid living why? because they are fed up of carrying heavy boxes of shit to the elsan point [they have a composting bin] Can you see where this is going? people arnt ripping out composting toilets to fit cassettes or pump outs are they? composting loos are the future and some houses are being built with them in, I have no doubt in the future it will be all wee have LOL.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 2, 2016 13:58:40 GMT
"I still get rid of my shit in a friends composting bin which he uses on his garden"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2016 14:30:03 GMT
Pumping it overboard is aa net gain. Flush water is from the river so that goes back in. beer consumed is converted to piss so that is an increase. macerated poo has high water content, dissolves quickly = another increase. Everyone's a winner
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Post by JohnV on Sept 6, 2016 7:17:15 GMT
I have been doing a bit of catching up as I have mains power to charge the laptop at the moment (before returning to the fens) so I have only just read this thread
Serious question Kris, when you are composting properly in garden compost bins they get quite hot ( over 65 degrees C in a good compost heap) this is needed to achieve good rapid composting. does the same happen with a composting loo ?
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Post by kris on Sept 6, 2016 9:39:47 GMT
Basically John there are two kinds of composting mesophilic (cool) or thermophillic (hot) it depends on what you are costing to which type is happening. I'm hoping to use mesophilic, but it still needs a certain minimum temp to occur. Hence storing the full buckets in a box, to insulate them in winter. They shouldn't get as hot as a compost heap though.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 6, 2016 15:14:44 GMT
How do you keep flies out of the kitchen? Keep several buckets of poo in your bedroom!
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Post by kris on Sept 6, 2016 16:17:39 GMT
For the last time you don't get flies and I don't keep the buckets in the bedroom.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 16:20:56 GMT
For the last time you don't get flies and I don't keep the buckets in the bedroom. I think foxy was cracking a joke, and not at your expense. Sort of along the lines of how do you make a hormone? Don't pay her!
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 6, 2016 16:27:42 GMT
For the last time you don't get flies and I don't keep the buckets in the bedroom. Chill out, dude
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 6, 2016 16:30:29 GMT
Gotta get another chicken joke in quick....
A boy and his friends at school are being called barstards and bitches. The Boy goes home and says " Dad what are barstads and bitches" He says " ladys and gentlemen" then he goes up stairs to see his mum. He drops a perfume bottle and his mom says "shit" The boy says " mum what is shit" and she says "perfume" So he goes to see his dad (who is cutting the chicken) and his dad cuts him self and says " FUCK" The boy says "what does fuck mean" and he says " cutting. Then he follows his dad up stairs and his mum and dad are about to have sex when his dad says " where are the condoms?" HE says "what are condoms?" and his father says "coats and jackets". The following night his father invites over some important business clients. The boy opens the door for them and says " Hello come in Barstads and bitches, hang your condoms up here, My mum is up stairs rubbing shit on her face and my dad is down stairs fucking the chicken.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 6, 2016 16:36:53 GMT
One thing leads to another. I wonder if these pick-up lines are of any use to Thunderboat's very own hop-on-a-plane Casanova?:
Your father must be a thief because he stole the brightest star in the sky and put it in your eyes.
My hands are cold. So, why don't you come over so i can put them some place warm.
The only time I'd kick you outta bed would be to fuck you on the floor!
Hi, are you here to meet a nice man or will I do?
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Post by kris on Sept 6, 2016 16:36:58 GMT
I should have put a smiley face on the post, I keep forgetting.
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