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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 19, 2019 23:05:01 GMT
I'd guess it's much the same in other relatively rich western democracies but Question Time this evening was in Britain, so that's all I can go off.
Forgetting the nonsense of the Liberal Democrat pledge to revoke article 50 after gaining a majority in parliament; this being about as likely as Britain announcing a new space expedition within the next budget:
It all seems like doom and gloom to me. So many young people apparently mentally ill. All the politicians being pretty good at showing concern but all of them falling back on hoping that more money is spent on health services. How about: why are so many young people mentally ill? Is it unrealistic expectations from parents; having being told that all children are brilliant, can go to university and achieve great things? Is it similar pressures brought about by society in general, peer groups maybe? Social media? Are people who are thick being told they can do anything they want in life, the reality is different and it's very difficult to cope with?
You don't see widespread mental health issues amongst young people in developing countries. At least I didn't, not that I'm particularly trained to recognise it. In many cases the expectations and pressures on young people in developing countries is much higher than it is in Britain but despite this, very few of them choose a solution of throwing themselves off a tall building.
I'm starting to feel that Britain is in some kind of spiralling decline, I see nothing around to arrest it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 23:08:57 GMT
I'd guess it's much the same in other relatively rich western democracies but Question Time this evening was in Britain, so that's all I can go off. Forgetting the nonsense of the Liberal Democrat pledge to revoke article 50 after gaining a majority in parliament; this being about as likely as Britain announcing a new space expedition within the next budget: It all seems like doom and gloom to me. So many young people apparently mentally ill. All the politicians being pretty good at showing concern but all of them falling back on hoping that more money is spent on health services. How about: why are so many young people mentally ill? Is it unrealistic expectations from parents; having being told that all children are brilliant, can go to university and achieve great things? Is it similar pressures brought about by society in general, peer groups maybe? Social media? Are people who are thick being told they can do anything they want in life, the reality is different and it's very difficult to cope with? You don't see widespread mental health issues amongst young people in developing countries. At least I didn't, not that I'm particularly trained to recognise it. In many cases the expectations and pressures on young people in developing countries is much higher than it is in Britain but despite this, very few of them choose a solution of throwing themselves off a tall building. I'm starting to feel that Britain is in some kind of spiralling decline, I see nothing around to arrest it. I thought kids in 'developing' countries died due to other causes before many of them had chance or opportunity to commit suicide? |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 19, 2019 23:16:47 GMT
Have you been watching BBC newsreels from the 70's from Ethiopia? While the life expectancy in most developing countries is lower than in Britain the difference isn't significant. It used to be, but not now. The kids I was teaching were very much alive and kicking.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 23:19:53 GMT
My children are as happy as Larry despite currently identifying as females. I'm hoping to add another 2 or 3 at some point which I expect to be equally happy and optimistic while understanding that their forebears have fucked the world very badly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 23:21:56 GMT
Have you been watching BBC newsreels from the 70's from Ethiopia? No |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 19, 2019 23:25:46 GMT
My children are as happy as Larry despite currently identifying as females. I'm hoping to add another 2 or 3 at some point which I expect to be equally happy and optimistic while understanding that their forebears have fucked the world very badly. I dunno really. A bit like the apparent racist Trudeau, he didn't know, us predecessors who have fucked the world didn't know either. Until recently, at least. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 23:27:25 GMT
My children are as happy as Larry despite currently identifying as females. I'm hoping to add another 2 or 3 at some point which I expect to be equally happy and optimistic while understanding that their forebears have fucked the world very badly. I dunno really. A bit like the apparent racist Trudeau, he didn't know, us predecessors who have fucked the world didn't know either. Until recently, at least. Trudeau is not a racist. Hes been done over by his political opponents. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 23:32:50 GMT
There does seem to be a general trend towards the negative in society. I reckon its a money thing. Facebook and all that shit preying on people like vultures. I hate that. On balance it seems likely that future generations will sort it out and good things will happen.
This is why I like babies.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 19, 2019 23:33:07 GMT
Have you been watching BBC newsreels from the 70's from Ethiopia? No Oh. Well if you ever take yourself off to a developing country sometime it might be an eye opener for you. Children surviving beyond school age. Medical services, rather than witch doctors. You might find entire cities covered by fast, free broadband, underground rail systems and sky trains. Nobody throwing themselves off buildings, despite there being no such thing as social services, and no need to condemn a significant proportion of the younger generation to mental illness. |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 19, 2019 23:34:22 GMT
I dunno really. A bit like the apparent racist Trudeau, he didn't know, us predecessors who have fucked the world didn't know either. Until recently, at least. Trudeau is not a racist. Hes been done over by his political opponents. For once I agree with you. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 23:35:54 GMT
Oh. Well if you ever take yourself off to a developing country sometime it might be an eye opener for you. Children surviving beyond school age. Medical services, rather than witch doctors. You might find entire cities covered by fast, free broadband, underground rail systems and sky trains. Nobody throwing themselves off buildings, despite there being no such thing as social services, and no need to condemn a significant proportion of the younger generation to mental illness. Define 'developing country' |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 19, 2019 23:40:19 GMT
Oh. Well if you ever take yourself off to a developing country sometime it might be an eye opener for you. Children surviving beyond school age. Medical services, rather than witch doctors. You might find entire cities covered by fast, free broadband, underground rail systems and sky trains. Nobody throwing themselves off buildings, despite there being no such thing as social services, and no need to condemn a significant proportion of the younger generation to mental illness. Define 'developing country' Really? OK, in western parlance, a country with a relatively low economic base that's growing faster than more developed, richer, economies. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 23:43:07 GMT
Define 'developing country' Really? OK, in western parlance, a country with a relatively low economic base that's growing faster than more developed, richer, economies. Really? Developing countries tend to have some characteristics in common. For example, with regards to health risks, they commonly have: low levels of access to safe drinking water, sanitation and hygiene; energy poverty; high levels of pollution (e.g. air pollution, indoor air pollution, water pollution); high proportion of people with tropical and infectious diseases (neglected tropical diseases); high number of road traffic accidents; and generally poor infrastructure. Often, there is also widespread poverty, low education levels, inadequate access to family planning services, corruption at all government levels and a lack of so-called good governance. Effects of global warming (climate change) are expected to impact developing countries more than wealthier countries, as most of them have a high "climate vulnerability".[5]Like most things, you can choose any defintion you wish. |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 19, 2019 23:48:28 GMT
Sure, any definition can be approached from different angles. What's amazing is that despite the entirely negative definition you've posted, and mine, which suggests they're poorer, they very rarely throw themselves off bridges onto streams of fast moving traffic etc. etc., that's quite common in our rich country with great control of diseases, little corruption, clean water, great hygiene etc. etc.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 23:50:03 GMT
Sure, any definition can be approached from different angles. What's amazing is that despite the entirely negative definition you've posted, and mine, which suggests they're poorer, they very rarely throw themselves off bridges onto streams of fast moving traffic etc. etc., that's quite common in our rich country with great control of diseases, little corruption, clean water, great hygiene etc. etc. For once I agree with you. |
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