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Post by lollygagger on Oct 15, 2019 8:58:12 GMT
Unfortunately the Kurds are a tool. If the West really helped them over their hurdle they would loose that tool.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 15, 2019 9:21:12 GMT
All tourists going to Turkey for their jollidays have been funding Erdogan's terrorism. Prepare for an influx of Kurdish refugees. And now that duck-lipped old tart will have someone new to serve her coffee and sandwiches in Pret.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 16, 2019 18:36:56 GMT
"I also have a certain sympathy for the Kurds who are fighting for their own freedom but they are well organized militarily and well-off in terms of weapons and equipment. I suspect they can look after themselves. At the same time, I recall that they were willing participants with the Turks in the massacre of the Christian Armenians a century ago. In fact, it was the Arab Syrians who gave the persecuted Armenians shelter. Syria was always tolerant of other religions before the civil war broke out despite the ruthless rule of the despicable Assad family."
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 16, 2019 18:48:19 GMT
"Btw, have you noticed that visit Turkey ad on the telly in the last few days? Great timing lol."
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Post by lollygagger on Oct 16, 2019 20:36:29 GMT
"Btw, have you noticed that visit Turkey ad on the telly in the last few days? Great timing lol." There are plenty of thickos who just book a cheap holiday anywhere and assume it wouldn't exist if it wasn't "OK". I mean, people were booking Thomas Cook holidays when it was all over the internet that they would go bust any day. And I remember on Brexit vote day someone being interviewed in the street who didn't even know there was a referendum happening or what Brexit was. Plenty of people just glide along in a bubble of general happy ignorance - my heroes!
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Post by Mr Stabby on Oct 16, 2019 20:50:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 20:51:12 GMT
Jane's just come home from work and told me she was chatting with four students who are working with her in the evenings, all aged 18 to 20 years. During conversation Jane was asked where we'd been on the boat this year. The only place mentioned that ANY of them knew was Oxford. None had heard of Coventry, Macclesfield, Rugby, Stoke or Congleton. They asked if Rugby was like the game ... none knew there was a town or had heard of Tom Brown's Schooldays. Don't know what they're studying but guess not British geography Rog
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Post by NigelMoore on Oct 16, 2019 21:45:29 GMT
"I also have a certain sympathy for the Kurds who are fighting for their own freedom but they are well organized militarily and well-off in terms of weapons and equipment. I suspect they can look after themselves. At the same time, I recall that they were willing participants with the Turks in the massacre of the Christian Armenians a century ago. In fact, it was the Arab Syrians who gave the persecuted Armenians shelter. Syria was always tolerant of other religions before the civil war broke out despite the ruthless rule of the despicable Assad family." Syria was indeed always accepting of other religions and cultures; it has always been the internecine conflict between their own tribal factions that has troubled the country. It was somehow strange travelling through Damascus, Aleppo, Homs, etc, to see fully garbed & bearded orthodox Christian priests walking down the road amidst the featureless black slugs of the more extremist Muslim women, and communities of Jews were also still present in Damascus, seeing no reason for exile because they were not ill-treated either β even throughout the Israeli conflicts. Some fine local brandies are (were?) produced, and their Arak was simply the best. But Iran probably gave even more sanctuary to the Armenians in the course of the 1915 Turkish genocide, housing them with those similarly protected back in the early 17thC by Shah Abbas. Some years ago I spent time wandering around the rather grim museum housed in Isfahanβs Vank Cathedral, where documentary, photographic and artistic records are displayed of their gory history, including masses of photographs etc from 1915. It was the first I had ever heard of it.
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