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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 14:29:58 GMT
your perception is correct.
...................... not in the house either.
years ago my daughter had a party in her ground floor flat and somehow a towel caught fire from a tea light candle in the bathroom and spread to the door. Some drunk eejit?
The only thing candles are good for are going on the top of birthday cakes. Like you I think they have no real place on a boat - tea lights work ok as fire lighters, that said so does a blow torch so no real need to clutter a draw full of waxy waste of space. With a dog (or other pets) and young children (or dwarves) I wouldn't have t lights either. But I don't ... don't have parties ... don't have young people ... don't have eejits on board ... and don't leave t lights lit and unattended EVER ... and have romance in my soul Rog
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 2, 2020 14:42:26 GMT
oh dear - heat a big cold steel box enclosure with a candle.
someone has really lost the plot, innit?
(if in doubt, do the maths - calorific value of wax, rate of burn, etc.)
You are right on the other issue though. I heard that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 15:20:25 GMT
The only thing candles are good for are going on the top of birthday cakes. Like you I think they have no real place on a boat - tea lights work ok as fire lighters, that said so does a blow torch so no real need to clutter a draw full of waxy waste of space. With a dog (or other pets) and young children (or dwarves) I wouldn't have t lights either. But I don't ... don't have parties ... don't have young people ... don't have eejits on board ... and don't leave t lights lit and unattended EVER ... and have romance in my soul Rog Animals are not generally noted for their competence with naked flames. And leaving one unattended is not recommended, but if you did, placing it in a large steel container first might be regarded as an almost foolproof precaution. On a lighter note, the epithet 'eejit' seems to be gaining currency here on Chunderboat. Rog, why do you always sign off with 'Rog' when we all know its you? Rog
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 19:41:17 GMT
Because that's my name. You know it's me cos I always sign off with my name Rog
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Post by Jim on Feb 2, 2020 19:48:40 GMT
Because that's my name. You know it's me cos I always sign off with my name Rog Even though it might not be our name we can still use it though. Roger. And over.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 19:58:02 GMT
When I first came to thunderboat I 'railed' a bit against anonymous 'heros' who were happy to be unpleasant to others from behind pseudonyms. I have always chosen to be open about my boat's name, and my name, and will not post words I am not happy to be identified with. So any post I make, although my 'signature' name is dogless (here and the other place when I was there) I sign off with my name. Rog
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Post by Jim on Feb 2, 2020 20:11:41 GMT
When I first came to thunderboat I 'railed' a bit against anonymous 'heros' who were happy to be unpleasant to others from behind pseudonyms. I have always chosen to be open about my boat's name, and my name, and will not post words I am not happy to be identified with. So any post I make, although my 'signature' name is dogless (here and the other place when I was there) I sign off with my name. Rog We know, you said already. We still have the Odd anonymous hero or two, nematodes creeping about. 'Twould be nice to know more. I'm me wherever I am too, I don't even have masterly criminal activities to hide. Roger. And out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 20:11:49 GMT
Because that's my name. You know it's me cos I always sign off with my name Rog Even though it might not be our name we can still use it though. Roger. And over. Roger that. It was funny when I did my VHF course the instructor told us "they don't actually say "Roger" as an affirmative for a message received. However I listen to London VTS regularly on my boats and yes they do use the term "Roger". Not all of them but it is used quite regularly.
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Post by Jim on Feb 2, 2020 20:17:54 GMT
Even though it might not be our name we can still use it though. Roger. And over. Roger that. It was funny when I did my VHF course the instructor told us "they don't actually say "Roger" as an affirmative for a message received. However I listen to London VTS regularly on my boats and yes they do use the term "Roger". Not all of them but it is used quite regularly. We could always be lazy. Rog.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 20:19:46 GMT
Even though it might not be our name we can still use it though. Roger. And over. Roger that. It was funny when I did my VHF course the instructor told us "they don't actually say "Roger" as an affirmative for a message received. However I listen to London VTS regularly on my boats and yes they do use the term "Roger". Not all of them but it is used quite regularly. Correct. 'Roger' is not a 'proword'. The correct response is 'all understood'. But it just goes to show that most didn't pay attention in the training session. I sometimes wonder what you would have to do to actually get prosecuted for misuse.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 20:22:56 GMT
What I find interesting is that one of the London VTS radio operators at Woolwich Thames Barrier control sometimes uses the phrase "Roger, all received". I think it's a traditional thing which nobody is particularly worried about. Another one if the radio operators never uses the word and says "Message received" instead.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 20:24:53 GMT
Roger that. It was funny when I did my VHF course the instructor told us "they don't actually say "Roger" as an affirmative for a message received. However I listen to London VTS regularly on my boats and yes they do use the term "Roger". Not all of them but it is used quite regularly. We could always be lazy. Rog. It's said that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so thank you. Of course an old clown like you could never truly pass himself off as the young, virile, handsome REAL me Rog
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Post by Jim on Feb 2, 2020 20:29:13 GMT
We could always be lazy. Rog. It's said that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so thank you. Of course an old clown like you could never truly pass himself off as the young, virile, handsome REAL me Rog I have matching shapely knees though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 20:35:26 GMT
What I find interesting is that one of the London VTS radio operators at Woolwich Thames Barrier control sometimes uses the phrase "Roger, all received". I think it's a traditional thing which nobody is particularly worried about. Another one if the radio operators never uses the word and says "Message received" instead. I think its a mix of a hangover from the days when some senior bod with highly polished shoes wrote the rule book and issued grim warnings for not sticking to it, and the fact that in all the fillums everyone says 'roger'. And laziness. Personally I think it only truly matters in heavy weather and / or in an emergency. But in a somewhat Orwellian way sticking to the list of 'prowords' reduces the possibility of waffle and chat on the airwaves. Which is bad.
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Post by themenagerieafloat on Feb 2, 2020 20:37:51 GMT
Gosh, lots of things to think about here... @magnetman - yes, skirting ones are what I was thinking of. Will check out that brand. The infrared ones looked pricey but swooshy - perhaps for somewhere high up and less grubby. naughtyfox - I looked at heat pumps (air and water) when first buying first boat. Would love to be able to justify one! Fortunately wind turbines and candles are out on the grounds of (a) lack of wind/proximity of tunnels to boat through and (b) flames/smoke (the little fluffies can also be left long enough to outlast candles/stoves etc) so I don't feel the need to comment on those :-) Similarly old skool electric fires (it took me until university to have a real ouch, but I did...). dogless - this boat _is_ my home. Not a retreat so I want it as complex as necessary to make it comfortable and convenient. The play boat has a lovely Epping. You can come clean it for me some time :-) lollygagger - the 20cm is including feet if you have it free standing. Less on wall. :-) And yes, I was thinking of it as 'back up' heating so hoping for not too much power. JohnV - yes, quite a bit below the gunwale - was thinking of just above the skirting/pipe box. Am hoping it wouldn't be too hot against wood panelling? I def want something fixed to wall with cabling all affixed too. Gone - I was hoping 'occasional use' meant 'not powerful enough to rely on all the time' rather than 'breaks if used' but that could be my optimism bias talking... @bp3 - as a live-aboard daily use is pretty much a given but with job/mutts/etc time to mess with fires isn't. There is a dog walker who comes to the marina but I don't think they also offer a 'stove tending for warmth of mutts & assorted fluffies' service! Thank you all (including @blacksheep whose post seems to have come, been quoted, and gone before I got to see it!)
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