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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 20:16:59 GMT
Banbury town centre is reported as flooded, the Cherwell is running over into the canal. Bus station will be wet again. Not to mention the services. The sports centre and the new shopping centre are wet. Will it get like 1998, with the Avon, Soar, Nene, Cherwell, Tove all in serious flood. Hopefully not. bit of respite at the moment flood-warning-information.service.gov.uk/station/6113?direction=u
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Post by metanoia on Dec 24, 2020 20:18:33 GMT
BTFC always have a waterlogged pitch but I bet its well under water now. By brother lives there for years but moved a few miles south to steeple Claydon. We quite like visiting the area. Amazed to read that - what a small world - my oldest friend lives there ........ Merry Christmas to you and yours and hope they all stay safe x eta - should have said Steeple Claydon - not the football ground!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 20:19:09 GMT
Not good hope there's not to much damage, good luck on Saturday, More rain on its way for Sunday along with 8m waves down here. I meant to text you back - I have a dreadful Samsung non smartphone at the moment; not inclined to text at all! levels are dropping but everything is so waterlogged it will take a while - you should be ok on floating moorings, we are on scaffold and the main river at PYC! MIL is ok, not much sleep, tiled floor and a bit of resilience means she’s not too pissed off. Casualty is a rug and a stair runner. Lucky she listened to my advice and parked her car behind the old post office on higher ground. A soaking would have seen off her elderly Fiesta. No bother on TXT I guessed you were busy, glad all is OK. Harpers Brook is down according to the level meter, the meter at Orton is not as bad as some and its always lower above the lock riverlevels.uk/nene-orton-longueville-orton-sluice#.X-T3GVWnyQIPontoons will cope with 1998 levels at Ringstead So unless its super bad........ Wouldn't fancy being on the Gt Ouse there is loads of water coming down there in the nextbday or so,
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Post by airedaleman on Dec 24, 2020 20:22:49 GMT
There’s been a hell of a lot of rain on already saturated ground here in the Northamptonshire uplands and there’s a lot more to run off even without the Boxing Day rain. The road by Boddington reservoir is flooded and closed as was the 361 last night. Even the A14 has been closed at Thrapston . The Avon in rugby caused the Tesco car park to be closed although you could still paddle to the store itself. Hope everybody and their boats stay safe
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 20:25:22 GMT
I meant to text you back - I have a dreadful Samsung non smartphone at the moment; not inclined to text at all! levels are dropping but everything is so waterlogged it will take a while - you should be ok on floating moorings, we are on scaffold and the main river at PYC! MIL is ok, not much sleep, tiled floor and a bit of resilience means she’s not too pissed off. Casualty is a rug and a stair runner. Lucky she listened to my advice and parked her car behind the old post office on higher ground. A soaking would have seen off her elderly Fiesta. No bother on TXT I guessed you were busy, glad all is OK. Harpers Brook is down according to the level meter, the meter at Orton is not as bad as some and its always lower above the lock riverlevels.uk/nene-orton-longueville-orton-sluice#.X-T3GVWnyQIPontoons will cope with 1998 levels at Ringstead So unless its super bad........ Wouldn't fancy being on the Gt Ouse there is loads of water coming down there in the nextbday or so, For the first time since god knows when All the sluices at Orton are fully functional as are the sluices at the Dog - obviously they are tide locked twice a day but all being well Between the EA and the MLC firing St Germanis pumping station up full tilt we will be ok 🤞
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 20:28:18 GMT
This very old sign at Nene Valley Railway Stibington ignores the sources from Chapel Brampton and Lamport but gives you an idea of the area we cover.
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Post by Allan on Dec 24, 2020 20:28:42 GMT
Banbury town centre is reported as flooded, the Cherwell is running over into the canal. Bus station will be wet again. Not to mention the services. Some years back, I was doing some volunteering in Banbury and recall a major flood alleviation scheme being constructed. Looks like it has not worked very well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 20:38:55 GMT
Banbury town centre is reported as flooded, the Cherwell is running over into the canal. Bus station will be wet again. Not to mention the services. Some years back, I was doing some volunteering in Banbury and recall a major flood alleviation scheme being constructed. Looks like it has not worked very well. The schemes worked brilliantly post 1998 - sadly the EA seem to have forgotten lessons learned and fallen into the same old trap of cost cutting on routine maintenance - culvert clearing, undergrowth and fallen tree maintenance along with keeping tributaries clear of aquatic growth and free flowing. I can think of only a couple who are on the east Anglian team that would have been involved in the Easter ‘98 floods. You absolutely can not beat real world experience, sadly we don’t have a lot of that these days 🧐🤦🏼♂️
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 20:53:45 GMT
It's bound to happen.
Demand for more profit by pension funds and other investment systems will mean that it is better to allow flooding and provide a solution rather than prevent the flooding.
There isn't much money in keeping drains clear but I'm sure there is a lot of money in building new flood prevention infrastructure. And housing of course.
Excellent example is the "Jubilee River" more accurately called the Windsor and Maidenhead flood alleviation scheme.
A scam from the start and guess what? The top end of it has now had a large housing development advertising "riverside" properties. They aren't by a river they are by a man made flood channel. Yet people will pay more money because of it being advertised as by a river.
And I'm like "blah blah blah and ho ho ho"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 21:11:45 GMT
It's bound to happen. Demand for more profit by pension funds and other investment systems will mean that it is better to allow flooding and provide a solution rather than prevent the flooding. There isn't much money in keeping drains clear but I'm sure there is a lot of money in building new flood prevention infrastructure. And housing of course. Excellent example is the "Jubilee River" more accurately called the Windsor and Maidenhead flood alleviation scheme. A scam from the start and guess what? The top end of it has now had a large housing development advertising "riverside" properties. They aren't by a river they are by a man made flood channel. Yet people will pay more money because of it being advertised as by a river. And I'm like "blah blah blah and ho ho ho" You are actually a bit wide of the mark Google the government investigation into the cause (and failings) that lead to the devastating events of Easter 98 along with the loss of life. It was said that never again would the mistakes that lead up to it be allowed to happen again, millions were spent on flood alleviation schemes from Weedon to Northampton. Along with more sophisticated monitoring along the whole Nene catchment - sadly history looks to be repeating and things are on the slide. This was three years ago -at the time I called it in to the IWA and the EA, no will from either to do anything about it. This is the supposedly navigable West Bridge Arm, there is a mooring upstream of the fallen tree.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 21:14:53 GMT
How does that make me wide of the mark? I was pointing out that lack of routine maintenance is the problem
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 21:21:14 GMT
As you know @gazza it used to get cleared by IWA Northampton, then was used as part of their rally as a challenge to see who could get furthest up there, one boat used to get to the brewery most years, I used to get stuck under the bridge
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 21:22:40 GMT
How does that make me wide of the mark? I was pointing out that lack of routine maintenance is the problem The reason isn’t profit driven - it is most likely because there is barely anyone who knows what they are on about to keep things heading in the correct direction. once you loose the staff that know what they are talking about the organisation becomes rudderless - I have a damming document published espousing the benefits of leaving the river to its own devices; written by those that have no practical or real world experience of what the river actually does in times of flood - published entirely relying on computer modelling and once in 100 data. All well and good on paper. Sadly, much like Rugby a game which cant be played on paper either - Mother Nature has a habit of making people who rely on crap like that look the fools they are.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 21:25:04 GMT
As you know @gazza it used to get cleared by IWA Northampton, then was used as part of their rally as a challenge to see who could get furthest up there, one boat used to get to the brewery most years, I used to get stuck under the bridge Yup, I won it in 2011 🤪👍🍻 The IWA seemed to fall out of love with it when they abandoned the Northampton boat gathering and buggered off on to the flood proof Braunston pound for boats <7’ 🧐😢
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 21:31:02 GMT
How does that make me wide of the mark? I was pointing out that lack of routine maintenance is the problem The reason isn’t profit driven - it is most likely because there is barely anyone who knows what they are on about to keep things heading in the correct direction. once you loose the staff that know what they are talking about the organisation becomes rudderless - I have a damming document published espousing the benefits of leaving the river to its own devices; written by those that have no practical or real world experience of what the river actually does in times of flood - published entirely relying on computer modelling and once in 100 data. All well and good on paper. Sadly, much like Rugby a game which cant be played on paper either - Mother Nature has a habit of making people who rely on crap like that look the fools they are. You are much less of a cynic than me if you believe this is not profit driven. Incompetence is a nice cover story anyway.
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