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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2021 11:06:42 GMT
obvs!
You are too old for that kind of talk, boomer.
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 5, 2021 11:08:42 GMT
obvs! You are too old for that kind of talk, boomer. Nah, still 25 and invincibubble. In my head, at least.
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Post by twbm2 on Jan 5, 2021 11:43:21 GMT
I have been known to mutter 'doddering old git' at a dawdling motorist, only to then look at them and note they are about my age.
On the subject of relative wealth: they're going to have to wait, but a significant proportion of the apparently excessive amount we've accumulated through 46 years of non-stop working, saving and investing in pensions is going to the offspring eventually. They can thus look forward to their younger generation moaning at them for being Boomheritors, or some such twattish made-up epithet.
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Post by bodger on Jan 5, 2021 11:59:46 GMT
Sometimes I feel the world would be a better place without facebook/twitter and such like, can be a really toxic place at times, more so in the football circles. did anyone else watch Ian Hislop's documentary about fake news last night?
he reckons it has got to the point where facts and truth are almost irrelevant - public opinion encouraged by soshulmeedya is the only reality in the minds of many.
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Post by JohnV on Jan 5, 2021 12:10:21 GMT
Sometimes I feel the world would be a better place without facebook/twitter and such like, can be a really toxic place at times, more so in the football circles. did anyone else watch Ian Hislop's documentary about fake news last night?
he reckons it has got to the point where facts and truth are almost irrelevant - public opinion encouraged by soshulmeedya is the only reality in the minds of many.
No didn't watch but that souinds like nail head
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Post by perkwunos on Jan 5, 2021 12:42:18 GMT
Sometimes I feel the world would be a better place without facebook/twitter and such like, can be a really toxic place at times, more so in the football circles. did anyone else watch Ian Hislop's documentary about fake news last night?
he reckons it has got to the point where facts and truth are almost irrelevant - public opinion encouraged by soshulmeedya is the only reality in the minds of many.
This ?
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Post by bodger on Jan 5, 2021 12:58:16 GMT
did anyone else watch Ian Hislop's documentary about fake news last night?
he reckons it has got to the point where facts and truth are almost irrelevant - public opinion encouraged by soshulmeedya is the only reality in the minds of many.
This ? well found !!
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Post by perkwunos on Jan 5, 2021 13:00:01 GMT
Thankyou.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2021 13:00:27 GMT
Have facts and truth ever been significant ?
Public opinion has always been a driver of events ... just the means of fomenting it and shaping it has altered and speeded up.
Most post industrial wars have been driven by public opinion.
Rog
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Post by bodger on Jan 5, 2021 13:15:33 GMT
Have facts and truth ever been significant ? Public opinion has always been a driver of events ... just the means of fomenting it and shaping it has altered and speeded up. Most post industrial wars have been driven by public opinion. Rog apparently the Spanish-American war of 1898 was inspired by lies reported in the 2 main newspapers in New York.
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Post by thebfg on Jan 5, 2021 15:04:36 GMT
Im getting quite tired of seeing the same old tripe that it only affects the old and invalid anyway so they should be able to carry on.
I just reply with sod em,eh. This country is just full of entitled people.
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Post by bodger on Jan 5, 2021 16:04:46 GMT
Im getting quite tired of seeing the same old tripe that it only affects the old and invalid anyway so they should be able to carry on. I just reply with sod em,eh. This country is just full of entitled people. it might be helpful if, instead of showing us some lonely old dear in a care home every day, the TV news featured one or more fit healthy young men or women who died from covid leaving a young family totally bereft.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2021 16:15:40 GMT
The average age of those who die from covid remains in excess of 80 years ... that's just how it is.
To keep over 80 as the average there surely can't be many young people dying can there ?
Rog
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 5, 2021 16:41:32 GMT
The average age of those who die from covid remains in excess of 80 years ... that's just how it is. To keep over 80 as the average there surely can't be many young people dying can there ? Rog No there aren't, but there are quite a lot of people 50+ who end up being very ill and in hospital. They recover eventually after having taken up a hospital bed for a long time. Or an ICU bed for a long time, which is worse. So it is not so much about how many people are dying right now, it is about what would happen if all hospital beds including ICU are full, when a 30 year old pitches up after a road accident, stabbing etc or a 50 year old with a heart attack. Once the health service becomes overwhelmed, people of all ages start dying from what should have been a totally curable condition. Yes this is what we had the Nightingale hospitals for and the question I want to ask is why aren't we using them more. I suspect the answer is that having the beds is one thing, but you also need the trained staff to look after those in the extra beds, and that I suspect is where we are lacking.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jan 5, 2021 16:58:20 GMT
Im getting quite tired of seeing the same old tripe that it only affects the old and invalid anyway so they should be able to carry on. I just reply with sod em,eh. This country is just full of entitled people. I tend to think that dying is something that eightysomethings are known for doing and dying is part of the life cycle. In fact, eighty is a good innings, my Dad was born in 1920 and his life expectancy was 55 years. He ended up dying at 86. In my view, too little consideration is given to the collateral damage which will be caused by our approach to Covid. When you look at the fields full of London black cabs parked up in Epping Forest, each one is a representation of a man's livelihood, his means of paying his mortgage, his purpose of being. And looking just a little deeper, the reason they are silent and quietly rusting away is because pubs, restaurants, theatres, every place they once got their trade from is closed, and all of their staff are idle too and in many cases without any means of paying the bills. And that is just one small snapshot. The pain hasn't really kicked in yet but it will do in 2021. We have had pandemics in the past and the way we dealt with these, by sheltering the vulnerable while everyone else just got on with it was the more sensible approach.
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