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Post by Jim on Feb 3, 2021 16:37:44 GMT
An interesting 50 seconds of video especially for Jim Rog One instance, how many times has Boris spouted porkies, in his emulation of trump. It matters little, criticising Starma has little effect on the brexovid chaos, its a distraction from dealing with those in power who could do a lot better.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 16:40:44 GMT
I think you have hit on one of the big problems. It's not a case of 'choosing a side' it's about having a dialogue. There is good and bad in everthing. My fear is that Covid has been used to push forward these agendas. The problem with that is that it undermines people's trust. Hence the conspiricies etc (not sure I agree with that, primarily my question would be Why does it undermine peoples trust?)I think it's important not to become polarised by labels and to try to see both sides of any argument or policy. (agreed)I do think there is significant evidence to show that general lockdowns are far more damaging to society than a focussed approach. (personally much happier with the traditional approach, it has been tried and tested and worked before, admittedly the UK has not seen it in practice before. I think the bad side of a focussed approach are splitting people who are seen as at risk and not at risk - this would create a massive divide amongst communities and families to work, not something I want to see or expect to work - however come next winter I'll be prepared to review my thoughts, but not until then)I think the Great Reset concept would be great if we trusted the powers that be. However why 'You will own nothing'? Surely it should be 'WE own nothing'? (not sure what you really mean - a link to the relevant part would be helpful)As for Agenda 30, yes, our biggest threat to life is us. However, freedom is something nobody want's to give up easily. If the powers that be and the rest of us could remove the 'us and them' labels, we've all got a chance. (think I agree, isn't that what agenda 30 is about trying to achieve)Ok, we could try to make a push for Mars, but if we can't find it in humanity to work with nature here on Earth, how is it going to work with a handfull of finacially rich and clever people on Mars? (gimme a marsbar and I'll have a think about that )Apologies for the green ink - it just seems more friendly than red to me! I think you are a nice enough person to address most of your comments yourself. As I hinted in my previous post, how do you think 'they' will enforce Agenda 30?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 16:43:34 GMT
Apologies for the green ink - it just seems more friendly than red to me! I think you are a nice enough person to address most of your comments yourself. As I hinted in my previous post, how do you think 'they' will enforce Agenda 30? I don't. I think some of it will come about my mutual consent and some be dumped.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 16:47:05 GMT
I think you are a nice enough person to address most of your comments yourself. As I hinted in my previous post, how do you think 'they' will enforce Agenda 30? I don't. I think some of it will come about my mutual consent and some be dumped. Probably.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 16:50:13 GMT
I don't. I think some of it will come about my mutual consent and some be dumped. Probably. Of course probably.
Nothing is certain when trying for something like global agreements.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 16:53:23 GMT
Jim ... you miss the point. We constantly hear you shouting about the buffoon Boris telling porkies, and you never accept the response that he's a politician and his lips are moving ... if you are to 'call-out' lies, you should 'call-out' ALL lies. Anyway ... lots of good news about the vaccine ... breaking the ten million jabbed mark ... evidence of reduced transmission post virus ... and my niece got her jab at 4pm Rog
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Post by ianali on Feb 3, 2021 17:08:36 GMT
Jim ... you miss the point. We constantly hear you shouting about the buffoon Boris telling porkies, and you never accept the response that he's a politician and his lips are moving ... if you are to 'call-out' lies, you should 'call-out' ALL lies. Anyway ... lots of good news about the vaccine ... breaking the ten million jabbed mark ... evidence of reduced transmission post virus ... and my niece got her jab at 4pm Rog You missed out the good news of the dive in new cases, hospitalisation and deaths. Actually, cases and deaths around the globe are falling...wonder why? Anyway, surprising how many have been jabbed isn’t it! 7 out of my 11 immediate neighbours. 3 of my lads mates as well. Seems quite a few younger people are also being vaccinated. Soon be March 😊😍
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 17:13:33 GMT
Jim ... you miss the point. We constantly hear you shouting about the buffoon Boris telling porkies, and you never accept the response that he's a politician and his lips are moving ... if you are to 'call-out' lies, you should 'call-out' ALL lies. Anyway ... lots of good news about the vaccine ... breaking the ten million jabbed mark ... evidence of reduced transmission post virus ... and my niece got her jab at 4pm Rog You missed out the good news of the dive in new cases, hospitalisation and deaths. Actually, cases and deaths around the globe are falling...wonder why? Anyway, surprising how many have been jabbed isn’t it! 7 out of my 11 immediate neighbours. 3 of my lads mates as well. Seems quite a few younger people are also being vaccinated. Soon be March 😊😍 Yes but only slowly and from a massive high compared to the first wave, worryingly Africa is increasing, hope that doesn't continue.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 18:31:55 GMT
My heart bleeds for poor Mr Fox.
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Post by Jim on Feb 3, 2021 18:52:56 GMT
One instance, how many times has Boris spouted porkies, in his emulation of trump. It matters little, criticising Starma has little effect on the brexovid chaos, its a distraction from dealing with those in power who could do a lot better. Now that the UK has left the EU, how many people have noticed the 'benefits'? All Brits living in Finland have to re-apply for a new residence permit, even though some (like me) got their Permanent Residence Permits before Finland joined the EU ... so why would Britain leaving the EU affect these? But, the authorities have decided yes, we have to fork out 49 Euros for a new residence permit which is valid 5 years at a time - with this you get a little plastic credit-card-sized card which 'helps' (not sure how) when you travel. I will have to travel to the nearest office which does the processing - 180 kilometres away. Yay! (wave the Union Jack!). So, that hasn't really benefited me. They also take your fingerprints - all part of the plan to keep people in their place? (Finns have had to give their fingerprints already for a few years to get their passports). I hear Finns in the UK have to re-apply for the residence permits. Aw bless. You got what you wanted and then you whinge.
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Post by bodger on Feb 3, 2021 19:06:40 GMT
Now that the UK has left the EU, how many people have noticed the 'benefits'? All Brits living in Finland have to re-apply for a new residence permit, even though some (like me) got their Permanent Residence Permits before Finland joined the EU ... so why would Britain leaving the EU affect these? But, the authorities have decided yes, we have to fork out 49 Euros for a new residence permit which is valid 5 years at a time - with this you get a little plastic credit-card-sized card which 'helps' (not sure how) when you travel. I will have to travel to the nearest office which does the processing - 180 kilometres away. Yay! (wave the Union Jack!). So, that hasn't really benefited me. They also take your fingerprints - all part of the plan to keep people in their place? (Finns have had to give their fingerprints already for a few years to get their passports). I hear Finns in the UK have to re-apply for the residence permits. you makes your bed - now you have to lie in it.
foxxy - no-one gives a flying fuck if it is inconvenient for you to comply with the requirements of your host country, it goes with the territory.
is this situation "driving you to suicide"? ............... DUHHH
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 3, 2021 19:14:29 GMT
So when more people agreed that the world was flat rather than round, it was flat then? I'm fairly confident the lockdown is an established fact. But what is not an established fact is that whether... a) The lockdown is a better way of dealing with the virus than shielding the vulnerable and letting everyone else catch it until it has run its course, and b) If more long-term harm will be caused by the lockdown than the virus itself. At the moment, we have not even begun to see the damage which will be caused by lockdown, although we will as 2021 progresses and it will probably be with us for the next 30-40 years. Should interest rates need to rise sharply causing mortgage payments to skyrocket and house values to collapse I suspect many former supporters of lockdown will begin to have second thoughts. Most householders fear negative equity far more than they fear a week in bed with a hot water bottle and a mug of Lem-Sip.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 19:22:38 GMT
I'm fairly confident the lockdown is an established fact. But what is not an established fact is that whether...
a) The lockdown is a better way of dealing with the virus than shielding the vulnerable and letting everyone else catch it until it has run its course, and
b) If more long-term harm will be caused by the lockdown than the virus itself.
At the moment, we have not even begun to see the damage which will be caused by lockdown, although we will as 2021 progresses and it will probably be with us for the next 30-40 years. Should interest rates need to rise sharply causing mortgage payments to skyrocket and house values to collapse I suspect many former supporters of lockdown will begin to have second thoughts. Most householders fear negative equity far more than they fear a week in bed with a hot water bottle and a mug of Lem-Sip. How do you propose we establish the facts? ..............
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 19:27:16 GMT
Aw bless. You got what you wanted and then you whinge. No, I would have organised 'Brexit' in a different way. But now you are going to ask "which way, then?" and I know it's a waste of my time to delve into that with someone like you. And I have a movie to watch in a few minutes... Come back and answer it tomorrow then - 'I'm all ears'.
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Post by Jim on Feb 3, 2021 19:37:20 GMT
Another carrot! "Oxford and AstraZeneca will make a new Covid vaccine by AUTUMN to tackle mutated variants as coronavirus keeps evolving to escape the immune system" By March, you say? Has your film not started?
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