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Post by Jim on Aug 9, 2021 18:41:40 GMT
As in the title, just came across it www.facebook.com/groups/NarrowboatOwnersGroup/permalink/3028337477444520/GOOD NEWS John Branford barges at Goole on the Aire n Calder has won the case against C&RT . C&RT tried to force the dry cargo barges to run at 6’ draft making it uneconomical to operate.His solicitor fought the case and won.So C&RT now have to maintain 8’ 6”canal depth .C&RT do not want commercial barges trading on the cut .Another one C&RT LOSES . Well done Mr Branford 👍
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 9, 2021 18:48:28 GMT
Well, good for him but who will pay for the cost of this dredging?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2021 18:59:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2021 19:06:19 GMT
Well, good for him but who will pay for the cost of this dredging? I've been told, being Head Goon, you will..
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 9, 2021 19:16:43 GMT
Well, good for him but who will pay for the cost of this dredging? I've been told, being Head Goon, you will.. I'm sure I will pay for part of it. But the point is that if Mr Branford makes (say) £50,000 per year our of his dry cargo barge operation and it costs CRT £1,500,000 per year to dredge the channel he uses then this is commercially illogical.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 9, 2021 19:27:39 GMT
So should we go to subsidies. If crt gave the bloke 50 grand to not move his boats, everyone Is a winner.
Perhaps CRT should encourage more freight to use the waterways.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2021 19:31:04 GMT
I agree CRT should pay people not to mice their boats.
Most people know not to mice their boats but you do get the occasional dodgy one and they do need paying off.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 9, 2021 19:33:03 GMT
Well, good for him but who will pay for the cost of this dredging? The licence payer and the taxpayer of course. Do you see this as a bad thing? I see it as a parallel to lots of other such things. Of course the majority of boaters would be happy with 6’ depth, but a minority aren’t. A lot of people are happy with steps in public buildings, people in wheelchairs aren’t. So should the majority pay for the minority to be able to enter public buildings, or not?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2021 19:34:51 GMT
People in wheelchairs don't make any commercial gain from being able to access public buildings.
I think Mrs Tabby had a fair point there. The vast majority of those who will be paying for the dredging will never need the extra depth and do not profit from using the waterway. The only people who will need it are making a profit out of using the waterway.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 9, 2021 19:36:57 GMT
Well, good for him but who will pay for the cost of this dredging? The licence payer and the taxpayer of course. Do you see this as a bad thing? I see it as a parallel to lots of other such things. Of course the majority of boaters would be happy with 6’ depth, but a minority aren’t. A lot of people are happy with steps in public buildings, people in wheelchairs aren’t. So should the majority pay for the minority to be able to enter public buildings, or not? That is one of the most nonsensical analogies I've ever seen on the internet.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 9, 2021 19:37:38 GMT
People in wheelchairs don't make any commercial gain from being able to access public buildings. They might do. They might need to enter a council building, a court, library etc in the course of their business.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 9, 2021 19:38:28 GMT
The licence payer and the taxpayer of course. Do you see this as a bad thing? I see it as a parallel to lots of other such things. Of course the majority of boaters would be happy with 6’ depth, but a minority aren’t. A lot of people are happy with steps in public buildings, people in wheelchairs aren’t. So should the majority pay for the minority to be able to enter public buildings, or not? That is one of the most nonsensical analogies I've ever seen on the internet. So you don’t actually have a counter argument. Thank you for conceding the point gracefully. Even though you didn’t answer the question. If only you had gone to a proper school you would understand the relevance.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 9, 2021 19:40:19 GMT
I agree CRT should pay people not to mice their boats. Most people know not to mice their boats but you do get the occasional dodgy one and they do need paying off. Ssshhhh no one noticed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2021 19:40:32 GMT
People in wheelchairs don't make any commercial gain from being able to access public buildings. They might do. They might need to enter a council building, a court, library etc in the course of their business. I suppose so but it isn't the same thing at all. A solicitor in a wheelchair will be able to do quite a lot of the work without having to access public buildings. Someone running a commercial workboat will not be able to do any business without having access to deep enough water.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 9, 2021 19:40:59 GMT
That is one of the most nonsensical analogies I've ever seen on the internet. So you don’t actually have a counter argument. Thank you for conceding the point gracefully. Even though you didn’t answer the question. If only you had gone to a proper school you would understand the relevance. Magnetman had already covered this in the post above mine.
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