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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2021 14:02:18 GMT
What are your thoughts please, good and bad. I know they are air cooled but that's about it. Can they be made to heat water?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2021 14:07:16 GMT
Many Listers are not air cooled. Sometimes there is an air cooled and water cooled version of the same engine. Which one had you in mind?
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Post by patty on Aug 30, 2021 14:07:24 GMT
They sound very nice when they chug along.....
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 30, 2021 14:09:44 GMT
I don't know a great deal about them but I'm sure I read somewhere that many of the engine parts are made of unobtainium.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2021 14:44:57 GMT
Many Listers are not air cooled. Sometimes there is an air cooled and water cooled version of the same engine. Which one had you in mind? None in particular it was just a general enquiry about them. I thought they were all air cooled, shows what little I know.
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Post by brummieboy on Aug 30, 2021 14:49:07 GMT
They sound very nice when they chug along..... On someone else's boat; but they are generally considered reliable and bombproof.
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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Aug 30, 2021 14:59:05 GMT
Air cooled Lister? "Its half past three"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2021 15:04:56 GMT
I ran a Lister SR2 for a couple of years of cruising summer and winter.
Good bullet proof air cooled engine but very noisy.
I would not want one again unless it was in a well arranged socially distant engine room and even then they are still noisy.
However they are very reliable and long lasting units. Careful about the fuel getting into the oil. They can run away (mine did) if there is a fuel leak and it tops up and thins the lube oil. Despite running away (stopped with the decompressors) and seizing due to thin oil the engine continued to work for years afterwards.
That was when I knew sweet FA about engines. I think I would notice it now but it can catch you out as the high pressure fuel pump is hidden behind a protective cover. Good because the engine is more durable out in the open. Bad because leaks will end up in the sump.
Overall rating 7/10.
I seen to remember reading that a Lister SR or LR engine ran for 20,000 hours with the only consumable being fuel and lube oils.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2021 15:15:29 GMT
I seen to remember reading that a Lister SR or LR engine ran for 20,000 hours with the only consumable being fuel and lube oils. Bet that pleased the neighbours!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2021 15:31:01 GMT
It will have been a well pump or something.
If it's pumping water up from deep under the ground in a very hot country I imagine the neighbours could be pacified by the offer of a few gallons of clean water.
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Post by Jim on Aug 30, 2021 15:53:11 GMT
This one runs off lentils and chapattis.
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Post by JohnV on Aug 30, 2021 16:37:27 GMT
Never had much to do with them personally. only time travelled on a boat powered by an aircooled Lister it was the crane Barge "Bartholemew" trundling down the Humber on a wonderful still evening in winter (very cold) the skipper couldn't understand why we weren't all huddled up in the wheelhouse .... he was thinking he was Billy Nomates ..... we were all sat on deck infront of the cooling air outlets from the 6 cylinder Lister ..... we woz cozy
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Post by tonyb on Aug 30, 2021 16:47:16 GMT
What are your thoughts please, good and bad. I know they are air cooled but that's about it. Can they be made to heat water? I think you need to be more specific or do more research. The air cooled ones and their water cooled equivalents are very different from the modern water cooled four cylinder models. The more common air cooled canal boat engines are very reliable given suitable maintenance, but they are getting on a bit in most cases. They are very good cold starters but have a few bad habits like a propensity for the internal fuel system to leak fuel into the sump oil.
The modern water cooled units are arguably as reliable, but some have hydraulic valve lifters and for those to be reliable frequent oil changes are very important.
Unless you get into a large wet exhaust jacket and pumped circulation forget getting hot water from an air cooled one and even if you went to all the trouble and expense of such things it is by no means certain you would get much more than tepid water after a long-running period.
My personal view is that for trouble free cruising there are probably better engines around like Beta and Canaline. Be wary about the cost of parts. Mitsubishi based engine are fine as well but the Vetus version come complete with ongoing expensive spares.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2021 17:30:37 GMT
Interesting thought getting hot water from an air cooled engine.
I'd have thought the best way would be via a belt driven generator and an immersion heater.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 30, 2021 17:52:07 GMT
Air cooled listers, bomb-proof but also sound like a bomb going off in slow motion. No hot water. Can be smokey. Alternator drive is off the camshaft which goes at 1/2 speed so difficult to spin an alternator fast enough to do anything useful. Water cooled listers I would put in the same category as a BMC - adequate but very old-tech. Limited electrical generation due to v belt pulley, tend to be smokey. I can't imagine why anyone would get anything other than a modern japanese engine such as Beta etc (but not a Vetus). Super-reliable, quiet, clean-burning, loads of electrical generating capability.
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