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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2021 11:52:23 GMT
More people + more rubbish = more rules. Simple. And inevitable. It’s the more rubbish bit that cart seem to have the problem with? It’s the more rubbish bit that everyone has a problem with.
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Post by kris on Sept 30, 2021 12:14:29 GMT
It’s the more rubbish bit that cart seem to have the problem with? It’s the more rubbish bit that everyone has a problem with. Yes but it’s simple enough more bins and make sure it’s only boaters using them. If I use the example of where I just was Beeston you have bins there right next to the towpath open for anybody passing to use, so they do. Not to mention all the van dwellers using the facilities bins for free and hot showers for the price of a key. I’m sure Beeston must be mentioned on one of their forums now as there is always four or five vans there. Anyway so it’s how cart react to this that is theirs to choose. They choose to see it as a problem to be eradicated and the people as scum to be washed out of sight. Which is a shame really because if they choose to see it as an opportunity then it would be better for all concerned.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2021 12:42:20 GMT
It’s the more rubbish bit that everyone has a problem with. Yes but it’s simple enough more bins and make sure it’s only boaters using them. If I use the example of where I just was Beeston you have bins there right next to the towpath open for anybody passing to use, so they do. Not to mention all the van dwellers using the facilities bins for free and hot showers for the price of a key. I’m sure Beeston must be mentioned on one of their forums now as there is always four or five vans there. Anyway so it’s how cart react to this that is theirs to choose. They choose to see it as a problem to be eradicated and the people as scum to be washed out of sight. Which is a shame really because if they choose to see it as an opportunity then it would be better for all concerned. I don't much care for the policies CRT are using to precipitate a 'crisis' either. But really, honestly, truly, do you think that a linear shanty town is a desirable situation?
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Post by kris on Sept 30, 2021 13:11:44 GMT
Yes but it’s simple enough more bins and make sure it’s only boaters using them. If I use the example of where I just was Beeston you have bins there right next to the towpath open for anybody passing to use, so they do. Not to mention all the van dwellers using the facilities bins for free and hot showers for the price of a key. I’m sure Beeston must be mentioned on one of their forums now as there is always four or five vans there. Anyway so it’s how cart react to this that is theirs to choose. They choose to see it as a problem to be eradicated and the people as scum to be washed out of sight. Which is a shame really because if they choose to see it as an opportunity then it would be better for all concerned. I don't much care for the policies CRT are using to precipitate a 'crisis' either. But really, honestly, truly, do you think that a linear shanty town is a desirable situation? I think it doesn’t have to be a shanty town. But pretending it will go away or that people aren’t living on boats isn’t going to work. So providing adequate services and making sure the people who use them are the people who pay for them would seem the sensible option. By the way England has become in old parlance a “third world country,” so you would expect some shanty towns. The boat dwellers and van dwellers tend to be the ones who are a bit together.
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Post by kris on Sept 30, 2021 13:16:19 GMT
Anyway I thought there where lots of young professionals on the water in London now days and that it has all gone so”boho.”
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Post by JohnV on Sept 30, 2021 13:28:26 GMT
lots of young professionals who are on the water because they can't afford a flat ...... and don't give a toss about the future of the waterways because as soon as they can afford it they will off like a shot.
Yes I know some become proper boaters and love it ..... but there are hell of a lot that don't (and there are also a lot of scruffy proper boaters as well)
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Post by TonyDunkley on Sept 30, 2021 13:40:43 GMT
It seems that the outcome of crt putting the “safety zone.” On the river Lea on hold. Is that district enforcement are going to be doing the towpath side enforcement. Up until now they have only potentially been involved with waterside moorings the quasi separate body that rents crts on line moorings. I see this development as a big step towards privatising of all the enforcement process. Watch out here come parking meters to a canal near you. The navigation authority for the publicly owned inland waterways -- ie. the man-made canals that were 'nationalised' in 1947 -- was 'privatised' in 2012 when the British Waterways Board was abolished under a Statutory Instrument [Transfer of Functions] Order, . . and the whole shooting match was put under the control of a private limited company, masquerading as a charity, and trading as the Canal & River Trust. It's nearly 10 years too late to start vapouring about the privatization of minor aspects of the administration of the inland waterways that were taken into "public ownership" nearly 75 years ago. The whole focus of attention should be on undoing what was done to OUR - the general public's - waterways in 2012, . . NOT initiating pointless campaigns about who's issuing towpath 'parking tickets' or (not) getting the dustbins emptied.
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