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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 30, 2022 18:52:03 GMT
I think it probably didn't help that the democratically elected President Yanukovich was deposed in a US funded coup and then replaced with a strongly anti-Russian administration with close links to ultra right-wing nationalist paramilitary groups who immediately started a programme of ethnic cleansing against the predominantly Russian population of Donbas.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 30, 2022 19:43:49 GMT
Did you mean Mossad, which is the national intelligence agency of Israel? Russia is delivering natural gas to Europe, Europe is paying for it, everyone is happy. Quite frankly a few nuclear weapons dropped on certain cities in the UK could only act as an improvement! Pray Putin doesn't move on Finland before it joins NATO. You'll be ok, he will reward you for spreading antivax and general disinformation propaganda in the west. NATO is just another scam - public money is paid by politicians into 'the club' and the politicians get some back to build their new houses, and to buy the latest Lexus. Or Tesla if they are in the Green Party (if it sounds like snot, it probably is).
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 30, 2022 19:45:03 GMT
Did you mean Mossad, which is the national intelligence agency of Israel? Russia is delivering natural gas to Europe, Europe is paying for it, everyone is happy. Quite frankly a few nuclear weapons dropped on certain cities in the UK could only act as an improvement! The white race is doomed. We just aren’t breeding fast enough. Sad, but true. Planet of the Apes is upon us. Oh what a surprise! Scottish Parliament votes to make Covid “emergency powers” permanent Yesterday, Members of the Scottish Parliament (MSPs) voted to make some the emergency measures – initially instated to “combat the pandemic” – permanent features of Scottish law. Originally passed in March 2020, the Coronavirus (Scotland) Act established all sorts of powers never before claimed by the devolved parliament. Now it is rebranded as the “Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill”, and codifies a number of those “emergency” powers into permanent law. off-guardian.org/2022/06/30/scottish-parliament-votes-to-make-covid-emergency-powers-permanent/
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 30, 2022 19:47:48 GMT
I think you are well off beam there.
Putin is a product of the KGB
most of his close associates are ex KGB
The system in Russia is entrenched in a very long history of believing that a strong man for a leader is the way to go.
There has been a period, for a comparitively short while when the old Soviet ideas were changing.
Young people not from that era with a more open view and more importantly the ability and history of travel abroad were beginning to climb in society.
If that had continued for another 20 years such a change in attitude by the leadership might have become unthinkable.
It didn't and the old dinosaurrs have got back the reins.
In the Soviet days, the Kremlin was a hotbed of plots internal coups and backstabbing.
Post Stalin, the Central Committee of the Communist Party was never totally dominated by any single individual.
A level of support of the committee was always required.
There is no CCCP any more and the original oligarchs that assisted Putin in his rise to power have all suffered ...... accidents of one form or another.
The few surviving ones are to be found in the West living as quietly as possible.
The few that now surround him are totally subserviant to Putin and depend entirely upon his approval
He continues to allow them to steal huge sums from the country but they know that it will only continue as long as they keep their noses clean.
Your idea that there is a large group supporting and manipulating in the background is delusional.
He has effectively removed or neutered any that might have any power to sway his actions.
In conclusion, in the event that Chris's solution fails to appear, I can't see any way that he might be removed internally.
As has been said, if you believe in prayer, this might be as good a time as any to start.
Putin's cruel and heartless manner of doing business is typical of the Russian psyche.
Just wait 'til he gets to England and starts smashing the statues:
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 30, 2022 19:49:55 GMT
Master and Commander was terrific 👍 Rog If you like to see people drowning.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2022 20:01:00 GMT
I think it probably didn't help that the democratically elected President Yanukovich was deposed in a US funded coup and then replaced with a strongly anti-Russian administration with close links to ultra right-wing nationalist paramilitary groups who immediately started a programme of ethnic cleansing against the predominantly Russian population of Donbas. 'There was no coup in Ukraine four years ago. The demonstrations which began in Kyiv in November 2013 – called "Maidan", or "Euromaidan" – were not provoked from outside but were a result of the Ukrainian people's frustration with former President Yanukovych's last minute U-turn when, after seven years of negotiation, he refused to sign the EU–Ukraine Association Agreement and halted progress towards Ukraine's closer relationship with the EU as a result of Russian pressure.'
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Post by JohnV on Jun 30, 2022 22:24:06 GMT
I think it probably didn't help that the democratically elected President Yanukovich was deposed in a US funded coup and then replaced with a strongly anti-Russian administration with close links to ultra right-wing nationalist paramilitary groups who immediately started a programme of ethnic cleansing against the predominantly Russian population of Donbas. 'There was no coup in Ukraine four years ago. The demonstrations which began in Kyiv in November 2013 – called "Maidan", or "Euromaidan" – were not provoked from outside but were a result of the Ukrainian people's frustration with former President Yanukovych's last minute U-turn when, after seven years of negotiation, he refused to sign the EU–Ukraine Association Agreement and halted progress towards Ukraine's closer relationship with the EU as a result of Russian pressure.' Oh No !!! that is just fake news, don't watch anyone else except RTE
(apparently like a couple of people on here)
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 1, 2022 7:29:13 GMT
NATO is little more than a component of American global power projection, providing supplementary military and political backing for an American empire defined by the “rules-based international order” premised on sustained US military and economic supremacy. Keeping America on top, however, is proving to be a bridge too far, largely because the American empire itself is crumbling at its foundations, struggling economically to sustain the so-called “American Dream” and politically to keep alive the flawed promise of American democracy.
'Covid' was a test run on population control. NATO is the never-ending war mongering machine. The two themes are intertwined.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 1, 2022 7:34:38 GMT
"I think it is climate change catastrophe week (we must keep up) , here in North Devon temperatures have been a little on the cool side and it has rained a lot so much like N Devon summers for the last 100 years, the countryside is verdant with growth - a veritable 40 shades of green, the local rabbits have been breeding like ....... rabbits! no problem with the rabbit birth rate. The people who live near the coast seem to think the sea is coming up the beach the same as it did in the 1950s.
This failure of the natural world to respond to the climate change narrative is clearly a terrible thing and must be countered by a stream of climate change fear from the media. Some 'expert' was bewailing our failure to plant enough trees and was saying how this was leading to catastrophe! The catastrophe seems to be that people may wake up, look out the window, walk through the woods and along the coast and say 'where is this climate change?'. At which point the green agenda could start to come apart and that would never do."
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Post by bodger on Jul 1, 2022 7:49:58 GMT
I've been watching Bond film scenes. My favourite is Roger Moore by a long way but the others are okay. Not a fan of the more recent films as dislike the CGI issue. However there does seem to be some conditioning going on. A lot of the movies are based around the Russians being the baddies. Have we, as a nation, been conditioned to view Russians as bad regardless of what they do?
yes
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Post by ianali on Jul 1, 2022 7:53:32 GMT
"I think it is climate change catastrophe week (we must keep up) , here in North Devon temperatures have been a little on the cool side and it has rained a lot so much like N Devon summers for the last 100 years, the countryside is verdant with growth - a veritable 40 shades of green, the local rabbits have been breeding like ....... rabbits! no problem with the rabbit birth rate. The people who live near the coast seem to think the sea is coming up the beach the same as it did in the 1950s. This failure of the natural world to respond to the climate change narrative is clearly a terrible thing and must be countered by a stream of climate change fear from the media. Some 'expert' was bewailing our failure to plant enough trees and was saying how this was leading to catastrophe! The catastrophe seems to be that people may wake up, look out the window, walk through the woods and along the coast and say 'where is this climate change?'. At which point the green agenda could start to come apart and that would never do." You think you have problems? You should try walking in my shoes for a day! Ali has just received a tx from Sainsbury’s telling her that our delivery today will not include her favoured bottles of Prosecco. If she’s not happy, I’m not happy.. I can see the delivery driver going in the river today.
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Post by bodger on Jul 1, 2022 7:56:42 GMT
On this we agree. Meathead rugby player ain't bond. In order of preference mine are Moore Brosnan Connery Dalton Other
Connery in third place !!!
that is a heresy.
like Cadbury's Dairy Milk he is the original and the best, others are nowt but imitators.
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Post by bodger on Jul 1, 2022 7:58:50 GMT
there is only one really cool car there. I agree. The Lada Riva is a terrific machine.
only surpassed by the Skoda Yeti, preferably the Mk.1 1.2litre 107bhp turbo petrol.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2022 8:02:36 GMT
Suzuki Ignis Allgrip 1.2 litre petrol is a pretty nice little machine as well.
On demand 4wd does work well ! Very light and does 103mph comfortably without wobble.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2022 8:02:56 GMT
Given the balance of probabilities it seems likely most people in this country would tend to view the invasion and indiscriminate destruction of a nation-state and its population (feel free to use whichever verb you deem most appropriate) to be, on the whole, a bad thing, with or without any such 'conditioning'.
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