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Post by Andyberg on Feb 8, 2024 9:04:06 GMT
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Post by dogless on Feb 8, 2024 9:15:48 GMT
I've said before, that while I am a committed socialist I am pragmatic. A committed socialist and buy to let landlord. Your free choice in both cases but don't you feel it puts you in a glass house whilst you're haranguing others ? Rog
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Post by Clinton Cool on Feb 8, 2024 9:20:23 GMT
I've said before, that while I am a committed socialist I am pragmatic. I have not just wittered on on an obscure internet forum but also made my views on the need for commitment to greening the country known to the labour party. I know the little rednecks here commit lock stock and barrel to their tory leaders, whether they are proven liars and cheats or not, following them blindly down the road to ruin. Where is the tory business plan for the country and for dealing with the most important issue for the long term future? I see there is also a requirement for a prime minister to be handsome. FFS! Any self respecting woman would object vehemently and rightly if a woman candidate was described as a minger and therefore not fit to be in power. I'm not sure who these Tory supporters are, the ones you also refer to as as 'rednecks'. You might be making a classic mistake, the assumption that someone who criticises what you believe in believes, by default, in what you prescribe to be the opposite. This may not be the case. People are free to believe in whatever they wish. They are not bound by your rule; the binary choice between Labour and the Tories. Perhaps you could clear this up and state who you believe these rednecks are?
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Post by Andyberg on Feb 8, 2024 9:22:42 GMT
I've said before, that while I am a committed socialist I am pragmatic. A committed socialist and buy to let landlord. Your free choice in both cases but don't you feel it puts you in a glass house whilst you're haranguing others ? Rog Not forgetting his choice to let the waiting plebs suffer, whilst queue jumping going for the private healthcare option for his treatment! 🙄 Jeez…Jims the most conservative poster on here!😂
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Post by Clinton Cool on Feb 8, 2024 9:25:16 GMT
I've said before, that while I am a committed socialist I am pragmatic. A committed socialist and buy to let landlord. Your free choice in both cases but don't you feel it puts you in a glass house whilst you're haranguing others ? Rog 'Pragmatic' enables one to act in an opposite manner to what you'd expect from someone (apparently) committed to a cause. Jim has already cleared up why his conscience is clear, as a buy to let landlord. His chosen line of work didn't pay the 'gold plated' pensions available for others, when they chose different work. So, being a buy to landlord enabled him to get his 'fair share', that's all.
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Post by dogless on Feb 8, 2024 9:39:29 GMT
I have no issue with someone's choice of how to invest their money to get a profitable return, or how to get the best medical care for their loved ones.
I support personal freedoms.
My issue is with the haranguing of others whilst promoting one's 'committed socialist' values , which seems at best clumsy.
Rog
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Post by Clinton Cool on Feb 8, 2024 9:59:15 GMT
The committment is to words. Analyse the actions and words of others. Constantly seek opportunities to criticise.
As regards personal actions: do what's best for themselves, and their families. This is the pragmatism. The very pragmatism which they seek to criticise, when it's carried out by others.
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Post by Jim on Feb 8, 2024 11:31:52 GMT
I've said before, that while I am a committed socialist I am pragmatic. A committed socialist and buy to let landlord. Your free choice in both cases but don't you feel it puts you in a glass house whilst you're haranguing others ? Rog there's nowt wrong with that, it's where my pension fund is, instead of being invested in property through a third party, a pension provider. I worked on below average wage for a charity for many years with no pension to speak of, we both had the skill to do lots ourselves. We managed our houses fairly, no guarantee a pension fund would. We are still on less than our resident trucker with his 35k. Latest news was that a comfortable pension would be above 35k a year each. We are well below that.
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Post by Jim on Feb 8, 2024 11:33:58 GMT
The committment is to words. Analyse the actions and words of others. Constantly seek opportunities to criticise. As regards personal actions: do what's best for themselves, and their families. This is the pragmatism. The very pragmatism which they seek to criticise, when it's carried out by others. Well, that's a lot of words, do we rearrange them to make sense? There's more to pragmatism than your definition of it.
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Post by Jim on Feb 8, 2024 11:37:28 GMT
A committed socialist and buy to let landlord. Your free choice in both cases but don't you feel it puts you in a glass house whilst you're haranguing others ? Rog Not forgetting his choice to let the waiting plebs suffer, whilst queue jumping going for the private healthcare option for his treatment! 🙄 Jeez…Jims the most conservative poster on here!😂 So my concern about not being able to lift and shift my wife when she needs it, going private because the tories haven't funded the NHS properly,, actually made the waiting list longer? Give your head a wobble.
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Post by brummieboy on Feb 8, 2024 11:52:35 GMT
Not forgetting his choice to let the waiting plebs suffer, whilst queue jumping going for the private healthcare option for his treatment! 🙄 Jeez…Jims the most conservative poster on here!😂 So my concern about not being able to lift and shift my wife when she needs it, going private because the tories haven't funded the NHS properly,, actually made the waiting list longer? Give your head a wobble. They funds would be beneficial and up to September, performance was improving until the political sabotage by unions put a stop to it. and to strike, then enrol with agencies for locum work to do the job you've struck from is criminal.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Feb 8, 2024 12:08:31 GMT
The committment is to words. Analyse the actions and words of others. Constantly seek opportunities to criticise. As regards personal actions: do what's best for themselves, and their families. This is the pragmatism. The very pragmatism which they seek to criticise, when it's carried out by others. Well, that's a lot of words, do we rearrange them to make sense? There's more to pragmatism than your definition of it. That's all good. I offered my understanding of your pragmatism, based on facts that you've provided on a public forum. Let's hear your version of your pragmatism then.
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Post by Trina on Feb 8, 2024 13:35:57 GMT
I've said before, that while I am a committed socialist I am pragmatic. I have not just wittered on on an obscure internet forum but also made my views on the need for commitment to greening the country known to the labour party. I know the little rednecks here commit lock stock and barrel to their tory leaders, whether they are proven liars and cheats or not, following them blindly down the road to ruin. Where is the tory business plan for the country and for dealing with the most important issue for the long term future? I see there is also a requirement for a prime minister to be handsome. FFS! Any self respecting woman would object vehemently and rightly if a woman candidate was described as a minger and therefore not fit to be in power. If you're talking about my use of the word stunner,I was explaining that it was used not for his stunning looks-but for the fact that he stuns me into a deep sleep...
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Post by dogless on Feb 8, 2024 14:10:36 GMT
A committed socialist and buy to let landlord. Your free choice in both cases but don't you feel it puts you in a glass house whilst you're haranguing others ? Rog there's nowt wrong with that, it's where my pension fund is, instead of being invested in property through a third party, a pension provider. I worked on below average wage for a charity for many years with no pension to speak of, we both had the skill to do lots ourselves. We managed our houses fairly, no guarantee a pension fund would. We are still on less than our resident trucker with his 35k. Latest news was that a comfortable pension would be above 35k a year each. We are well below that. You do not need to justify your choices to anyone, especially me. It's the constant jibes and promotion of your 'committed socialist' credentials I was questioning. As Andyberg pointed out, in action you're more tory than anyone else here. Rog
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Post by Jim on Feb 8, 2024 15:23:45 GMT
there's nowt wrong with that, it's where my pension fund is, instead of being invested in property through a third party, a pension provider. I worked on below average wage for a charity for many years with no pension to speak of, we both had the skill to do lots ourselves. We managed our houses fairly, no guarantee a pension fund would. We are still on less than our resident trucker with his 35k. Latest news was that a comfortable pension would be above 35k a year each. We are well below that. You do not need to justify your choices to anyone, especially me. It's the constant jibes and promotion of your 'committed socialist' credentials I was questioning. As Andyberg pointed out, in action you're more tory than anyone else here. Rog On what evidence? The rentals?
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