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Post by dogless on Mar 6, 2024 8:47:12 GMT
Budget day and the FTSE 100 has opened up 20 (FTSE 250 up 116)
Does the City know something we don't ?
Rog
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 6, 2024 9:03:11 GMT
It will just be the usual. More handouts of borrowed cash to the favoured groups without any idea how it may be repaid. Oh, and punitive taxation of vaping, the widespread adopton of which, instead of smoking, has very possibly saved more lives than any medical advancement in my lifetime.
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Post by dogless on Mar 6, 2024 9:09:18 GMT
I was hearing about 'honeycomb lung' a new medical issue caused specifically by vaping ... doesn't sound that benign.
Rog
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 6, 2024 9:16:49 GMT
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Post by dogless on Mar 6, 2024 9:57:01 GMT
Over time, it can lead to scarring of the lungs' tiny air sacs, along with thickening and narrowing of the airways. A chemical called diacetyl, found in many e-cigarette flavors, is one cause of this condition.15 Jun 2023 www.health.harvard.edu › c... Can vaping damage your lungs? What we do (and don't) know - Harvard Health |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 6, 2024 10:03:21 GMT
Over time, it can lead to scarring of the lungs' tiny air sacs, along with thickening and narrowing of the airways. A chemical called diacetyl, found in many e-cigarette flavors, is one cause of this condition.15 Jun 2023 www.health.harvard.edu › c... Can vaping damage your lungs? What we do (and don't) know - Harvard Health If you read the link I provided you'll see that the component diacetyl was banned by an EU health directive in 2016. Perhaps diacetyl isn't banned where Harvard Health did their research but this is the U.K., and it's banned. |
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Post by Andyberg on Mar 6, 2024 10:04:12 GMT
Well a proposed -2% on NI isnt going to grab a vote from me!👎
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 6, 2024 10:06:56 GMT
It’s probably the case that vapes have helped addicted smokers get off cigarettes onto vapes, the latter being less harmful. However vapes are also marketed at and used by a large swathe of children who were not previously smokers. Smoking vapes is definitely more harmful than not smoking at all, and of course there is the added risk of e-cig battery fires, lots of plastic waste, lots of litter created. Some vapes contain highly toxic stuff
So I say tax it. Those drug addicts who have switched to it to get over their nicotine addiction have had plenty of time to come off gently. And with a pack of 20 fabs being £16 or more these days, there would have to be a lot of tax on vapes to catch up. Keep it cheaper than smoking by all means, but there is still plenty of scope for taxing this silly and self-indulgent habit.
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Post by dogless on Mar 6, 2024 10:07:14 GMT
My point was you can match link for link.
Some say it's harmful, some say not ... either way it's optional so a fair target for heavy tax.
Rog
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Post by on Mar 6, 2024 10:12:05 GMT
It’s probably the case that vapes have helped addicted smokers get off cigarettes onto vapes, the latter being less harmful. However vapes are also marketed at and used by a large swathe of children who were not previously smokers. Smoking vapes is definitely more harmful than not smoking at all, and of course there is the added risk of e-cig battery fires, lots of plastic waste, lots of litter created. Some vapes contain highly toxic stuff So I say tax it. Those drug addicts who have switched to it to get over their nicotine addiction have had plenty of time to come off gently. And with a pack of 20 fabs being £16 or more these days, there would have to be a lot of tax on vapes to catch up. Keep it cheaper than smoking by all means, but there is still plenty of scope for taxing this silly and self-indulgent habit. Loads of the kids at school use them. It is seen as cool. Obviously my girls are not interested in the slightest but it is very popular. |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 6, 2024 10:16:29 GMT
Smoking vapes is definitely more harmful than not smoking at all, Had you studied chemistry at proper school, you would know that vapours cannot be smoked.  |
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 6, 2024 10:27:58 GMT
Smoking vapes is definitely more harmful than not smoking at all, Had you studied chemistry at proper school, you would know that vapours cannot be smoked. Fascinating. But if you smoke a cigarette you also inhale some of the vapours coming off it. Most people who aren’t obsessed by pointless pedantry tend to refer to the act as “smoking” rather than “smoking and inhaling vapour”. And so the word “smoking” is not commonly used in its literal sense in this context. |
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Post by on Mar 6, 2024 10:30:33 GMT
To vape is a verb.
When offspring #1 talks about the others at school she says 'they vape' or 'they were vaping'.
Vaping and smoking are two separate activities.
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 6, 2024 11:02:04 GMT
To vape is a verb. When offspring #1 talks about the others at school she says 'they vape' or 'they were vaping'. Vaping and smoking are two separate activities. Vape is both a verb and a noun. |
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Post by on Mar 6, 2024 11:15:33 GMT
You will note that I wrote 'To vape is a verb' not 'vape is a verb'.
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