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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 27, 2021 7:15:13 GMT
Yes, strange how the parasite who ended up costing us "noddyboaters" thousands through our licence fees to get rid of his slum boat from the waterways through his refusal to pay his fair share is the loudest in shouting about how CRT should be spending our money. Thieving, lying freeloader. If you, Mr Shit-for-Brains, have nothing more to contribute, other than posting more of the same distortions and untruths in a similar vein to the rest of the libellous drivel you've been directing at me via this forum for the last few years, . . and tampering with my posts in an attempt to make it appear that the mindless garbage you've posted is attributable to me, . . it would be better all round if you were to refrain from posting anything at all. This thread is dealing with a serious subject that interests a great many people and, in common with most things, is way beyond your understanding or grasp and therefore goes straight over the top of your thick head. You have nothing useful, relevant, or constructive to contribute, . . so keep out of it, shut-up, and allow others to participate or contribute without first having to find their way past your vacuous irrelevances.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 26, 2021 19:17:52 GMT
It's certainly not as good value as paying fuck all ! Yes, strange how the parasite who ended up costing us "noddyboaters" thousands through our licence fees to get rid of his slum boat from the waterways through his refusal to pay his fair share is the loudest in shouting about how CRT should be spending our money. Thieving, lying freeloader.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 26, 2021 18:56:18 GMT
What's REALLY needed is for C&RT's 'customers' -- spineless, fawning victims is a better description -- to get their act together and stop accepting all the crap that Parry and Co. are dishing out in ever increasing measure. What IS the matter with you people, . . do you actually get some sort of perverse pleasure out of what C&RT are doing to you, . . and the inland waterways you all need to keep and use your wretched noddyboats on ? Get a grip on yourselves, and the reality of what is actually happening, . . and DO something about it before it's all too late ! Like what? Refuse to pay the licence fee? Because that really worked out well for you, didn't it? Thieving, lying scum.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 26, 2021 18:10:28 GMT
What is really needed is a man of action, not just a keyboard warrior. We need someone who is an expert in everything to glue their hands to the bonnet of Richard Parry's limo in Milton Keynes. Can't be me, I have to go boating. What's REALLY needed is for C&RT's 'customers' -- spineless, fawning victims is a better description -- to get their act together and stop accepting all the crap that Parry and Co. are dishing out in ever increasing measure. What IS the matter with you people, . . do you actually get some sort of perverse pleasure out of what C&RT are doing to you, . . and the inland waterways you all need to keep and use your wretched noddyboats on ? Get a grip on yourselves, and the reality of what is actually happening, . . and DO something about it before it's all too late !
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 26, 2021 11:32:48 GMT
Could be worse places to get stuck i suppose, 30 miles is a good enough stretch to move around on. Restricted to something of the order of around 30 miles of canal for at least 5/12ths of the period of a 12 month Pleasure Boat Licence costing around £1000.00 and entitling the Licence holder to the use of approximately 2000 miles of canal and river waterways, . . doesn't strike me as very good value, . . or anything like "good enough" !
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 26, 2021 11:01:30 GMT
Back on topic. Here, NW of the culvert, water levels still steadily rising, must be near parity. Short of some catastrophic failure, I'm confident I can escape, though not convinced there is anywhere interesting to go! Next winter will be on another canal: this is turning in to "Lockdown Re-visited" Have C&RT contacted you with an offer of an FOC lift out and transportation to another location of your choice ? As things stand at present, it looks as if you're going to be marooned in the 30 or so miles of canal between the bust culvert near Rishton and the stoppage near Gargrave until at least Easter next year.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 26, 2021 10:08:27 GMT
I didn't know the L&L was closed until Easter at Gargrave as well. From what Socks has said on here, it sounds as if she's somewhere between there and the bust culvert near Rishton. However many boats there are trapped in that section, C&RT should be offering FOC lift-outs and transport to all those who don't want to spend the next 5 months there. Do you know if any such offer has been made to those affected ? Believe they have floated some boats, not sure which side, i presume south as there was a call for help on twitter to assist them down the locks, Wigan maybe? That's not going to be any help or comfort to anyone stuck in the 30 or so miles between the bust culvert near Rishton and the knackered lock at Gargrave until at least next Easter, is it ! How many miles of C&RT controlled, formerly navigable but now semi-derelict and largely closed waterways does buying a 12 month Pleasure Boat Licence entitle the Licence holder to use ?
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 26, 2021 9:40:33 GMT
Four miles of canalised drainage ditch with one half-tide barrier at the low-end, plus five pound locks and three risers up to the canal level, aren't going to present anything like as much of a problem as either of the other two semi-derelict routes across the Pennines that'll have to be used to get onto the Western end of the Leeds & Liverpool, . . are they ?? As a lone female she might have difficulties and appreciate the help, it isn't the easiest of passage even at the right time, but my suggestion was more that you 'put your money where your mouth is' but then I suppose the last time you did that it didn't work either. The right time for what ?
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 26, 2021 9:28:21 GMT
Gargrave shut until Easter, Rishton shut until at least Easter. No chance of Ribble link this year, open or not. I didn't know the L&L was closed until Easter at Gargrave as well. From what Socks has said on here, it sounds as if she's somewhere between there and the bust culvert near Rishton. However many boats there are trapped in that section, C&RT should be offering FOC lift-outs and transport to all those who don't want to spend the next 5 months there. Do you know if any such offer has been made to those affected ?
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 26, 2021 8:29:40 GMT
It's now been established beyond any possible doubt that, provided you can get onto the Western end of the Leeds and Liverpool via one of the other two trans-Pennine routes, there is absolutely no valid reason why you can't get onto the Lancaster Canal by Christmas, and follow your original plan. The first 3 or 4 months of the year are undoubtedly the best time to make use of the Lancaster Canal due to the massive weed growth that's nowadays almost making the canal impassable by mid-Summer. C&RT has no right or authority to close any waterway under its control on purely arbitrary grounds and for no good reason, . . which in the case of the Ribble Link, is precisely what is being done, . . in effect, and in total, for 9 months out of every 12. Perhaps you could volunteer to help take her through it? Four miles of canalised drainage ditch with one half-tide barrier at the low-end, plus five pound locks and three risers up to the canal level, aren't going to present anything like as much of a problem as either of the other two semi-derelict routes across the Pennines that'll have to be used to get onto the Western end of the Leeds & Liverpool, . . are they ??
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 26, 2021 7:42:34 GMT
I have had my plan for cruising this winter scuppered by long term winter stoppage near Gargrave, I am currently thinking about going on to the Ribble Link around Christmas, and pottering up and down the Lancaster. Is this a good plan? I tried to phone the N W Offices for some related advice today, as advised by the CRT website. Aparently the call centre don't release that number to the public (!!!!). Grrrrrr. Would I tell him what my query is, and what canal is the Ribble Link on. Now what advice can some person in a call centre give to myself, a stakeholder, the roles are reversed. It makes me so annoyed. As far as I can make out, as far as I am aware, The Ribble Link is the name of the navigation, but what is the point of the question, I wanted a phone number, he refused to give it me, end of query. It's now been established beyond any possible doubt that, provided you can get onto the Western end of the Leeds and Liverpool via one of the other two trans-Pennine routes, there is absolutely no valid reason why you can't get onto the Lancaster Canal by Christmas, and follow your original plan. The first 3 or 4 months of the year are undoubtedly the best time to make use of the Lancaster Canal due to the massive weed growth that's nowadays almost making the canal impassable by mid-Summer. C&RT has no right or authority to close any waterway under its control on purely arbitrary grounds and for no good reason, . . which in the case of the Ribble Link, is precisely what is being done, . . in effect, and in total, for 9 months out of every 12.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 26, 2021 6:41:20 GMT
C&RT has no mandate to arbitrarily close any of the canals or navigations under its control, other than for valid operational, maintenance, or safety reasons, . . and NOT ONE of those reasons can be honestly put forward as genuinely applicable to the routine unnecessary closures of the 4 miles of canalised drainage ditch, 8 pound locks, and one half-tide barrier that together comprise the Ribble Link.
Further evidence of C&RT's confusion and incompetence has been noted amongst the crap published on the waterway dimensions pages of their website. Apparently, . . according to the geniuses responsible for effectively closing the waterway to navigation for around a total of 9 months out of every 12, . . the influence of the tides in the Ribble extends up the canalised Savick Brook as far as the pound between Locks 7 and 6 counting down from the level of the Lancaster Canal itself :-
"Note: Boat size is recommended from channel widths rather than lock sizes, confirm with us before passage - Locks 7, 8 and 9 are tidal. The locks on the Ribble Link are for crafts 72' (21.94m) although the Rufford Branch is 62' (18.9m)".
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 25, 2021 21:33:25 GMT
More enquiries yesterday have further confirmed that the sole obstacle to year round use of the Millenium Ribble Link, and much increased pleasure craft traffic during the Summer months, limited at present to approximately 90 days out of the whole 6 months of Summer, purely at the whim of the so-called management, . . is quite simply the bloody-minded stupidity and incompetence of C&RT itself.
This useless and thoroughly untrustworthy so-called Trust is not fit to be left in charge of a kiddies park boating lake !
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 24, 2021 20:43:49 GMT
Tide time at Tarleton is sod all to do with it. We're talking about the Savick Brook from the half-tide barrier about 400 yards down from the A583 Blackpool Road Bridge up to the 3 risers into the canal basin - ie. the Ribble Link. From the half-tide barrier to the tide lock, No. 8, the Ribble Link is semi-tidal, . . from lock No.8 up locks No's 7, 6, 5, and 4 to the 3 risers into the canal basin, the Ribble Link is non-tidal, . . so a one-way working system can be implemented on it, alternating direction every 1 - 2 hours, at any time on any day, . . and for as long as is necessary, depending on the number of boats making passage on any given day. From memory the link between Tarleton and the Lancaster Canal operates for 3 or 4 days either side of spring tides. If high tide is in the morning, it runs from Tarleton to the Lancaster: if high tide is in the afternoon, it operates the other way. I guess it could use two way working, but that would involve either starting down the locks really early (Lancaster to Tarleton with a morning tide) or boats overnighting on the semi tidal part of Savick Brook. Going the other way on an afternoon tide would require operation of the tide gate at "Lock 9" after tea time! The timing is most critical going Tarleton to Lancaster; too slow, and it's Preston dock as a port of refuge. The other way, we had to wait at Tarleton until the tide gates could be opened, after which all the boats cruised through the lock with both ends open. A read through all the C&RT piffle does confirm that they don't allow the use of the half-tide barrier gate or the other 5 pound locks in Savick Brook except for 3 or 4 tides either side of Springs. A read through the tide predictions for Preston and Savick Brook for the whole of this year, on the other hand, confirms that at HW on even the smallest of Neaps there is enough depth for vessels drawing up to 4 feet to comfortably pass through the half-tide barrier gate approximately 400 yards below the A583 Blackpool Road Bridge. In other words, there is absolutely NO NEED for the C&RT nonsense restricting passage onto or off the Lancaster Canal to 3 or 4 tides either side of Springs, . . or for the even more nonsensical one-way working on alternate days. Together, these two idiotic and completely unnecessary measures reduce the operational availability of the so-called Ribble Link to only one quarter of the total number of tides available in any 12 month period, . . even less when the daylight tides only factor is also reckoned in.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 24, 2021 15:47:06 GMT
but did your finger slip with the thread ? .... or was it deliberate ? 😂 Last time I looked on this thread folks were waffling on about the Ribble Link, so thought it was quite apt to post this pic here. The remains of the railway bridge are still visible about 1/2 mile from Tarleton locks. 👍 Do you happen to know the least depth the Ebb runs down to anywhere in the channel from the Douglas Boatyard to Asland Light ?
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