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Post by tadworth on Feb 22, 2017 18:29:14 GMT
It's maintenance to standards that permit navigation by vessels of the maximum size that the relevant dimensions of locks and bridgeholes dictate, rather than just the MNC dimensions, that I'm thinking of, Nigel. The current neglect of offside tree-cutting and rubbish filled lock chambers with fouled gates that won't open fully back into the recesses, makes passage by boats of a size the locks and bridgeholes can accommodate at the very least difficult, and sometimes impossible on most if not all of C&RT's broad canals. There are also, of course, the difficulties that would arise with two maximum size vessels passing where the MNC is less than the specified width. the lack of kebbing out behind lock gates, directly effects my cruising on the L&L. On average when I approach a lock I have to spend 30-40 mins clearing the rubbish from behind the gates. This isn't the fault of the bank staff. they are spread so thin, they don't have time to do this most basic of maintenance tasks. In fact they don't carry full length kebs anymore, just half length ones for clearing by washes not behind gates. They now want to charge me extra for doing their job for them. If you cannot navigate the canal or the locks and your boat is within the maximum dimensions then you should call out CRT to clear the problems, its not your responsibility to do their maintainance for them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 18:29:46 GMT
Apparently it's an all electric boat, with an in-built genny for charging the extensive array of batteries.
This story highlights my confusion with electric boats. You run in silence, then moor up and run the genny to charge up.
Seems a bit backward thinking to a diesel head.
Rog
IN ANSWER TO GAZZA ON PREVIOUS PAGE, SORRY
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 18:35:45 GMT
I'm intrigued by the 4% license evasion. Seems so much easier to not have a bss, no insurance and not pay for a license. I wonder how many of the unlicensed are old wrecks with disorganised owners and how many are people playing perfectly able to organise and pay for it but choosing to play a particular strategy. I don't really understand why the rate can not be reduced. Last I heard it was 6% in London region. Based on C&RT's figures for the total number of boats on their waterways in 2014, their admitted figure of just over 4% Licence evasion equated to approximately one unlicensed boat for every nautical mile of waterway. Given that the total boat population isn't moored evenly distributed along the whole 2000 miles or so of C&RT's waters, but concentrated in largish groups in relatively small areas and therefore not particularly difficult to find and check, that 4% figure is something they should be ashamed of rather than be bragging about in the Licensing and Enforcement pages of their nauseating website. I don't know how much extra income they anticipate from this forthcoming review and restructuring of boat Licensing, but I doubt it will come anywhere near to the sum that could be collected from this, apparently, consistently elusive 4% by concentrating on locating and prosecuting them instead of putting so much time and effort into the pointless micro-managing of the movements of licensed boats, be they CC'ers or HM'ers using their boats away from their own home mooring. To quote one of my younger daughter's (4.8 years old) favourite comments - "Its just ridiculous"
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Post by TonyDunkley on Feb 22, 2017 18:49:46 GMT
Yes, it's certainly relevant to what's just been covered in the last few posts. The EO that C&RT didn't want named was indeed the same snivelling little turd, Stuart Garner, who continued, whatever he did, to be backed to the hilt by Parry and went on to be the originator of the unlawful seizure of Leigh Ravenscroft's boat from a private mooring on the Trent near Newark.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 19:08:41 GMT
I'm intrigued by the 4% license evasion. Seems so much easier to not have a bss, no insurance and not pay for a license. I wonder how many of the unlicensed are old wrecks with disorganised owners and how many are people playing perfectly able to organise and pay for it but choosing to play a particular strategy. I don't really understand why the rate can not be reduced. Last I heard it was 6% in London region. Based on C&RT's figures for the total number of boats on their waterways in 2014, their admitted figure of just over 4% Licence evasion equated to approximately one unlicensed boat for every nautical mile of waterway. Given that the total boat population isn't moored evenly distributed along the whole 2000 miles or so of C&RT's waters, but concentrated in largish groups in relatively small areas and therefore not particularly difficult to find and check, that 4% figure is something they should be ashamed of rather than be bragging about in the Licensing and Enforcement pages of their nauseating website. I don't know how much extra income they anticipate from this forthcoming review and restructuring of boat Licensing, but I doubt it will come anywhere near to the sum that could be collected from this, apparently, consistently elusive 4% by concentrating on locating and prosecuting them instead of putting so much time and effort into the pointless micro-managing of the movements of licensed boats, be they CC'ers or HM'ers using their boats away from their own home mooring. This post would save countless hours of argument would the thick headed idiots wake up and smell the coffee! Be they C&RT employees or random C&RT apologists.
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Post by NigelMoore on Feb 22, 2017 22:59:41 GMT
I don't know how much extra income they anticipate from this forthcoming review and restructuring of boat Licensing, but I doubt it will come anywhere near to the sum that could be collected from this, apparently, consistently elusive 4% by concentrating on locating and prosecuting them instead of putting so much time and effort into the pointless micro-managing of the movements of licensed boats, be they CC'ers or HM'ers using their boats away from their own home mooring. The narrowboatworld article on this suggests that the increase in revenue from enforcement activity is falling behind the loss in revenue from boaters leaving the system. What I do not understand is the comment: “ The purge of unlicensed boats has been successful in increasing the revenue . . .” - but these purges serve only to remove the non-payers, which can hardly increase any revenue [especially when the cost of each removal in the “purge” is seemingly a minimum £5 grand plus.] If more and more boaters are leaving the system for elsewhere, then even the supposedly effective scare tactic of s.8 removals is failing in the ostensible purpose for which CaRT employ it – to encourage others to pay up; it seems rather, that it is scaring them away altogether.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 23:06:13 GMT
Yes nigel enforcement have bullied allot people from the waterways seen that in Nottingham with a old lady on narrowboat and she just ended up selling her boat. she just had enough with garners harassment
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Post by bargemast on Feb 23, 2017 11:56:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 12:26:54 GMT
Thanks for that link, useful snippet for me in there :- Transfer of EA Navigations to CRT CRT confirmed that they believed that this was a good plan as it is core to their business and only a sideline for EA, their systems for asset managment are better than EA, and there would be sense in one authority managing the main English and Welsh waterway systems. The CRT due diligence has shown thaat the amount of money that is needed to manage the EA waterways is significantly more than expected previously. While locks are generally in good condition there is significant work outstanding or anticipated on the weirs. The CRT Board of Trustees will be discussing this at their January meeting. They will be looking for guaranteed fuding for a significant period – 10-15 years. It is possible that DEFRA may decide that this is not a priority while the implications of BREXIT are being manage Fingers crossed DEFRA cant be arsed with it and have more important things to do - you know, making sure farmers carry on living in the style they have been accustomed to
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Post by kris on Feb 23, 2017 13:00:46 GMT
the lack of kebbing out behind lock gates, directly effects my cruising on the L&L. On average when I approach a lock I have to spend 30-40 mins clearing the rubbish from behind the gates. This isn't the fault of the bank staff. they are spread so thin, they don't have time to do this most basic of maintenance tasks. In fact they don't carry full length kebs anymore, just half length ones for clearing by washes not behind gates. They now want to charge me extra for doing their job for them. If you cannot navigate the canal or the locks and your boat is within the maximum dimensions then you should call out CRT to clear the problems, its not your responsibility to do their maintainance for them. i used to a lot more than I do now. It usually takes them so long to turn up that it's easier to just do it. I know the bank staff very well and if I do call them out they are very helpful, but have to use my keb as they don't carry them anyway. It worse in winter when there aren't many boats moving. What I can't get my head round is that they want to charge me more for the privilege of doing maintenance they should be doing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 13:19:04 GMT
Good to see that Sir Adrian is still his usual self, markets and all that. He hasnt spoken to me since I left the DBA........
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Post by bargemast on Feb 23, 2017 16:30:15 GMT
Good to see that Sir Adrian is still his usual self, markets and all that. He hasnt spoken to me since I left the DBA........ As long as the changes are adapted to his favour, he'll be happy, and he doesn't seem to care at all about anyone else.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 16:53:44 GMT
Good to see that Sir Adrian is still his usual self, markets and all that. He hasnt spoken to me since I left the DBA........ As long as the changes are adapted to his favour, he'll be happy, and he doesn't seem to care at all about anyone else.
Peter
I wish I there was an irony smiley cos it would have been on my post. How would Adrian manage on here?
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Post by bargemast on Feb 23, 2017 17:43:59 GMT
As long as the changes are adapted to his favour, he'll be happy, and he doesn't seem to care at all about anyone else.
Peter
I wish I there was an irony smiley cos it would have been on my post. How would Adrian manage on here? You'll have to invite him to find out, I am not a member of the DBA and can't post on there, I can only read the most recent postings.
To be honest, I don't think that he would have much useful information to add here.
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Post by kris on Feb 26, 2017 15:18:20 GMT
On thinking about this, surely with large increases of liscence fees will come increased liscence evasion. So will the increased liscence revenue be soaked up by the increased enforcement costs?
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