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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 11:16:20 GMT
I think its in my CRT mooring contract that I am technically meant to inform them if I am going away boating. Bit ridiculous really. They would know I was gone either by looking ( vessel not present ) or if I unplug the umbillical from the bollard because the leccy meter switches off. If you leave the plug in the bollard it stays on but you risk someone else using your supply. (Sorry a bit off topic but I think there are reasons they put this in and its not only marinas.) Totally uneccesary, unless of course your really in prison, and on a "day release". Absolutely ridiculous that this behaviour is accepted. They have no right whatsoever to maintain it, and frankly, I'd tell them to foxtrot Oscar.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 9, 2017 12:29:29 GMT
definitely the above. I have never told anyone when or where I was going when on the cruiser ...... I have to inform them here, with Sabina because me moving means two other boats have to be moved out into the fairway for me to get passed
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 12:37:59 GMT
definitely the above. I have never told anyone when or where I was going when on the cruiser ...... I have to inform them here, with Sabina because me moving means two other boats have to be moved out into the fairway for me to get passed That makes sense! I'm on a on line mooring I can just untie and go. I've taken the bigger boat (the one with the mooring) away several times and never informed CRT except to confirm that I would be leaving another of my boats on the (paid for) mooring. I pay yearly. Anyway I think they do request it in the contract which is ridiculous but not really a problem. I expect marinas do it to cover Johnv's type of situation.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Mar 9, 2017 12:41:10 GMT
Where`s the contract to which you are referring. Hanging on a nail in the bog wall.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 13:19:34 GMT
Lol
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Post by leo326 on Mar 9, 2017 14:49:27 GMT
A bit of quick clarification here. Firstly it is not a CaRT marina, it is an Environment Agency marina. Some of the contracts DO say that you must be out of the marina for 2 weeks every six months, and that the marina must be informed of when you are out of the marina.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Mar 9, 2017 15:39:53 GMT
A bit of quick clarification here. Firstly it is not a CaRT marina, it is an Environment Agency marina. Some of the contracts DO say that you must be out of the marina for 2 weeks every six months, and that the marina must be informed of when you are out of the marina. In other words everyone who keeps a boat there ought to deduct 7.7% from the annual fee they pay for the berth/mooring that's allocated to them to compensate for the 4 week period they're paying for but during which aren't allowed to use their own mooring. As for having to inform the marina every time you go out with your boat, . . . well, I wouldn't take kindly to that. Who, and what, do the EA marina operators think they are ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 15:47:49 GMT
A bit of quick clarification here. Firstly it is not a CaRT marina, it is an Environment Agency marina. Some of the contracts DO say that you must be out of the marina for 2 weeks every six months, and that the marina must be informed of when you are out of the marina. In other words everyone who keeps a boat there ought to deduct 7.7% from the annual fee they pay for the berth/mooring that's allocated to them to compensate for the 4 week period they're paying for but during which aren't allowed to use their own mooring. As for having to inform the marina every time you go out with your boat, . . . well, I wouldn't take kindly to that. Who, and what, do the EA marina operators think they are ? Mafia. Conservative members mafia.
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 9, 2017 15:48:19 GMT
A bit of quick clarification here. Firstly it is not a CaRT marina, it is an Environment Agency marina. Some of the contracts DO say that you must be out of the marina for 2 weeks every six months, and that the marina must be informed of when you are out of the marina. In other words everyone who keeps a boat there ought to deduct 7.7% from the annual fee they pay for the berth/mooring that's allocated to them to compensate for the 4 week period they're paying for but during which aren't allowed to use their own mooring. As for having to inform the marina every time you go out with your boat, . . . well, I wouldn't take kindly to that. Who, and what, do the EA marina operators think they are ? No, the annual fee is based on the fact that you have to be out of the marina for 2 weeks every 6 months. Tony when you come up with rubbish like this, you lose credibility that carries over to when you are trying to make valid points. Don't do it!
Anyway, it is obviously a planning permission thing. The marina has to show that it is enforcing the "not staying put permanently and thus requiring planning permission / pay council tax" thing. So is it worth the price of a year's council tax simply to not have to tell the marina that you are going out for your statutory 2 weeks in 6 months? Some reality in all this bleeding heart stuff would be good for all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 16:00:34 GMT
In other words everyone who keeps a boat there ought to deduct 7.7% from the annual fee they pay for the berth/mooring that's allocated to them to compensate for the 4 week period they're paying for but during which aren't allowed to use their own mooring. As for having to inform the marina every time you go out with your boat, . . . well, I wouldn't take kindly to that. Who, and what, do the EA marina operators think they are ? No, the annual fee is based on the fact that you have to be out of the marina for 2 weeks every 6 months. Tony when you come up with rubbish like this, you lose credibility that carries over to when you are trying to make valid points. Don't do it!
Anyway, it is obviously a planning permission thing. The marina has to show that it is enforcing the "not staying put permanently and thus requiring planning permission / pay council tax" thing. So is it worth the price of a year's council tax simply to not have to tell the marina that you are going out for your statutory 2 weeks in 6 months? Some reality in all this bleeding heart stuff would be good for all.
You've obviously run out.....
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 9, 2017 16:25:33 GMT
No, the annual fee is based on the fact that you have to be out of the marina for 2 weeks every 6 months. Tony when you come up with rubbish like this, you lose credibility that carries over to when you are trying to make valid points. Don't do it!
Anyway, it is obviously a planning permission thing. The marina has to show that it is enforcing the "not staying put permanently and thus requiring planning permission / pay council tax" thing. So is it worth the price of a year's council tax simply to not have to tell the marina that you are going out for your statutory 2 weeks in 6 months? Some reality in all this bleeding heart stuff would be good for all.
You've obviously run out..... You've obviously run out of any sort of rational argument. Some time ago!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 16:26:41 GMT
In other words everyone who keeps a boat there ought to deduct 7.7% from the annual fee they pay for the berth/mooring that's allocated to them to compensate for the 4 week period they're paying for but during which aren't allowed to use their own mooring. As for having to inform the marina every time you go out with your boat, . . . well, I wouldn't take kindly to that. Who, and what, do the EA marina operators think they are ? No, the annual fee is based on the fact that you have to be out of the marina for 2 weeks every 6 months. Tony when you come up with rubbish like this, you lose credibility that carries over to when you are trying to make valid points. Don't do it!
Anyway, it is obviously a planning permission thing. The marina has to show that it is enforcing the "not staying put permanently and thus requiring planning permission / pay council tax" thing. So is it worth the price of a year's council tax simply to not have to tell the marina that you are going out for your statutory 2 weeks in 6 months? Some reality in all this bleeding heart stuff would be good for all.
My mooring is full residential with letterbox, council tax, residents on street parking etc but there is still a "requirement" to tell crt if I move the boat. I think Johnv probably put his finger on the reason for it earlier on.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 16:30:33 GMT
You've obviously run out..... You've obviously run out of any sort of rational argument. Some time ago! You might care to share one box with mtb, he seems to share your issues 😂😂😂
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Post by leo326 on Mar 9, 2017 16:37:26 GMT
Please, I said that SOME of the contracts state this. I do not know what sort of contract Andy has. Only when that becomes clear can any conclusions be drawn.
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Post by lollygagger on Mar 9, 2017 16:43:07 GMT
The marina I'm in likes to know when you're not on your boat. a) so they can keep an eye on it for you. B) to show you're not residing permanently they make a note so if anyone asked they're ready.
They can see if the boat isn't there, but if you don't tell them they're unlikely to note it down towards the 28 days.
I never tell them what I'm doing and they are perfectly happy with that also and never ask.
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