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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 12:39:21 GMT
I have managed to bend the top 6" of my rudder over, god knows how. Any bright ideas without docking or getting too wet? Best I can come up with is trying a big set of steilsons and scaffold pole and seeing if I can twist it.... Sounds like something fairly dramatic happened. Was it a collision while the boat was unoccupied? I would have thought there would be internal signs of that like things displaced from shelves etc. Or if it was when someone was steering the boat it sounds like reversing into a concrete bank lower than the fender. I would have said take the rudder off but it depends on the design of the rudder. Old and more traditional narrow boats were and are designed in a way which makes the rudder removable without people getting wet but this is not the case with more modern boats. Some modern nbs even have the blade bolted to the stock.. Seems a strange design but I suppose the blade itself is removable but it would need someone getting into the water. And a lot of modern boats have ball bearings at the top rather than plain bearings. Not a good design IMO but there we are. Good luck with it. |
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Post by aquarat on Dec 31, 2017 13:37:53 GMT
Yea, thanks guys. Pretty much where my brain was with it. One thing I didn't try was a bearing puller on it. Might try and source one. If I can get it off then at least I can leave her in the wet and attack it with a press of some description or hammer and bottle of whisky :-) You'll stand a better chance as said with a press then with the hammering of 10mm steel, but don't hammer with the whisky bottle as that won't be up for a job like that  Peter. Bugger I was hoping a bottle of Glenfiddich was gonna persuade it! |
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Post by JohnV on Dec 31, 2017 13:40:23 GMT
You'll stand a better chance as said with a press then with the hammering of 10mm steel, but don't hammer with the whisky bottle as that won't be up for a job like that Peter. Bugger I was hoping a bottle of Glenfiddich was gonna persuade it! It might help console you though  Sounds like a right mare  ........ Good Luck with it all |
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Post by aquarat on Dec 31, 2017 13:44:33 GMT
I have managed to bend the top 6" of my rudder over, god knows how. Any bright ideas without docking or getting too wet? Best I can come up with is trying a big set of steilsons and scaffold pole and seeing if I can twist it.... Sounds like something fairly dramatic happened. Was it a collision while the boat was unoccupied? I would have thought there would be internal signs of that like things displaced from shelves etc. Or if it was when someone was steering the boat it sounds like reversing into a concrete bank lower than the fender. I would have said take the rudder off but it depends on the design of the rudder. Old and more traditional narrow boats were and are designed in a way which makes the rudder removable without people getting wet but this is not the case with more modern boats. Some modern nbs even have the blade bolted to the stock.. Seems a strange design but I suppose the blade itself is removable but it would need someone getting into the water. And a lot of modern boats have ball bearings at the top rather than plain bearings. Not a good design IMO but there we are. Good luck with it. I know, can't possibly think when/how it occurred. Rarely both of us are of the boat, haven't cilled her or anything drastic on shroppie shelf but there it is! Warstock bearing so I hope if the swan neck pops the plate will just nudge up and drop out which would make life a tad easier. I fear it's just gonna be a gutty bugger job. Ce la vie, I needed another major job to add to the new year list! Mind you there was the twat that whacked us on tixall wide though I'm sure they were not that accurate though! Still twats! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 14:19:29 GMT
You'll stand a better chance as said with a press then with the hammering of 10mm steel, but don't hammer with the whisky bottle as that won't be up for a job like that Peter. Bugger I was hoping a bottle of Glenfiddich was gonna persuade it! Drink the entire contents first A it won't waste any. B it will dull the sense's so you won't deafen yourself. C you will be obvious to the futility of it |
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Post by aquarat on Dec 31, 2017 14:34:40 GMT
Bugger I was hoping a bottle of Glenfiddich was gonna persuade it! Drink the entire contents first A it won't waste any. B it will dull the sense's so you won't deafen yourself. C you will be obvious to the futility of it D) what was the problem? |
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Post by bargemast on Dec 31, 2017 14:49:04 GMT
You'll stand a better chance as said with a press then with the hammering of 10mm steel, but don't hammer with the whisky bottle as that won't be up for a job like that Peter. Bugger I was hoping a bottle of Glenfiddich was gonna persuade it! With a bit of luck, that bottle can maybe persuade someone that's willing to do this job for you in exchange for that bottle Peter. |
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Post by aquarat on Dec 31, 2017 15:08:00 GMT
I think the New Year's Eve concensus is bugger!
Bless you all, have a good one.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 16:19:00 GMT
Bugger I was hoping a bottle of Glenfiddich was gonna persuade it! Drink the entire contents first A it won't waste any. B it will dull the sense's so you won't deafen yourself. C you will be obvious to the futility of it C. Did you mean obLIvious ? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 16:26:49 GMT
Drink the entire contents first A it won't waste any. B it will dull the sense's so you won't deafen yourself. C you will be obvious to the futility of it C. Did you mean obLIvious ? I was obviously oblivious to my obviously untentionally typo. I will obviously pay more attention to prevent any more unintentionally oblivious obvious mistakes. Obviously.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 16:31:39 GMT
It's OK
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Post by aquarat on Dec 31, 2017 18:46:02 GMT
Your all ducking useless....happy new smear
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Post by bodger on Dec 31, 2017 20:08:14 GMT
can you find a suitable location where you can replicate the likely accident, but do it on the opposite side - a case of two wrongs making a right.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Dec 31, 2017 20:24:16 GMT
1). Get the boat into a short lock pound early in the morning on a quiet day.
2). Drain the lock pound.
3). Get into the cut and remove the rudder from the boat.
4). Place the rudder on some wooden bearers on the towpath and hit it repeatedly with a sledgehammer until straight, using other pieces of scrap wood to aid if necessary.
5). Replace rudder on boat.
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Post by aquarat on Dec 31, 2017 21:27:01 GMT
can you find a suitable location where you can replicate the likely accident, but do it on the opposite side - a case of two wrongs making a right. My new year thoughts |
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........ Good Luck with it all
