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Post by aquarat on Dec 31, 2017 11:09:31 GMT
I have managed to bend the top 6" of my rudder over, god knows how. Any bright ideas without docking or getting too wet?
Best I can come up with is trying a big set of steilsons and scaffold pole and seeing if I can twist it....
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Post by kris on Dec 31, 2017 11:13:48 GMT
Does it still work?
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Post by aquarat on Dec 31, 2017 11:21:05 GMT
Yea still mobile but hard work, I have to pull the tiller over about 10 degrees to port. Not sure if I have twisted the swan neck around slightly as well but wanted to try and sort rudder before hitting SN wiv big hammer.
It appears to have been jammed over to SB and against stern
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 11:24:20 GMT
I have managed to bend the top 6" of my rudder over, god knows how. Any bright ideas without docking or getting too wet? Best I can come up with is trying a big set of steilsons and scaffold pole and seeing if I can twist it.... Picture? How thick is the blade? Anything over 6mm and you will struggle tbh. Even 6mm will be hard to straighten without having to get in and get a bit wet or pulling it out of the water. The easiest way is to use 3 very good big clamps, a bit of 4 X 2 channel, a set of waiders along with an assistant and a plentiful supply of hot drinks. Put waiders on, get in cut, have assistant pass you channel and one clamp. Clamp vertically to straighr bit of rudder blade, attached second clamp to straight of blade just before bend. Now take third clamp and try to pull bent bit on to the channel. After first go, have a hot drink, then shift clamp and have another bite at it. repeat as necessary. You won't get it perfect but it will pull up somewhere near.
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Post by kris on Dec 31, 2017 11:24:42 GMT
If it still worked I was going to suggest leaving it until the next time your out of the water. But this sounds like it isn't an option. So your stilsons and scaff tube might be the only option.
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Post by kris on Dec 31, 2017 11:26:48 GMT
If you've got waders wouldn't the best bet be to take it off put it on a flat surface and hit with a big hammer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 11:31:08 GMT
If you've got waders wouldn't the best bet be to take it off put it on a flat surface and hit with a big hammer. I've usually found rusty old rudders reluctant to come to bits, unless they are clanged on a cill! As you say, if it comes to bits, ideally a press or at the very least a gert big hammer, some ear plugs and some sweat and endeavour will get it back into shape.
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Post by aquarat on Dec 31, 2017 11:39:19 GMT
I have managed to bend the top 6" of my rudder over, god knows how. Any bright ideas without docking or getting too wet? Best I can come up with is trying a big set of steilsons and scaffold pole and seeing if I can twist it.... Picture? How thick is the blade? Anything over 6mm and you will struggle tbh. Even 6mm will be hard to straighten without having to get in and get a bit wet or pulling it out of the water. The easiest way is to use 3 very good big clamps, a bit of 4 X 2 channel, a set of waiders along with an assistant and a plentiful supply of hot drinks. Put waiders on, get in cut, have assistant pass you channel and one clamp. Clamp vertically to straighr bit of rudder blade, attached second clamp to straight of blade just before bend. Now take third clamp and try to pull bent bit on to the channel. After first go, have a hot drink, then shift clamp and have another bite at it. repeat as necessary. You won't get it perfect but it will pull up somewhere near. Nice idea but I have horizontal 'fins' just below the bend to can't get channel clamped on true bit! 10mm thick so I got a bit of an ask methinks.
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Post by aquarat on Dec 31, 2017 11:42:13 GMT
If you've got waders wouldn't the best bet be to take it off put it on a flat surface and hit with a big hammer. I've usually found rusty old rudders reluctant to come to bits, unless they are clanged on a cill! As you say, if it comes to bits, ideally a press or at the very least a gert big hammer, some ear plugs and some sweat and endeavour will get it back into shape. She was docked in June and took the opportunity to replace the rudder stock bearing. The swan neck was a MF to get off then! Hence I'm mighty pissed that it's happened now!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 11:44:28 GMT
Picture? How thick is the blade? Anything over 6mm and you will struggle tbh. Even 6mm will be hard to straighten without having to get in and get a bit wet or pulling it out of the water. The easiest way is to use 3 very good big clamps, a bit of 4 X 2 channel, a set of waiders along with an assistant and a plentiful supply of hot drinks. Put waiders on, get in cut, have assistant pass you channel and one clamp. Clamp vertically to straighr bit of rudder blade, attached second clamp to straight of blade just before bend. Now take third clamp and try to pull bent bit on to the channel. After first go, have a hot drink, then shift clamp and have another bite at it. repeat as necessary. You won't get it perfect but it will pull up somewhere near. Nice idea but I have horizontal 'fins' just below the bend to can't get channel clamped on true bit! 10mm thick so I got a bit of an ask methinks. 10mm needs a press. Rudder off job
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 11:46:00 GMT
I've usually found rusty old rudders reluctant to come to bits, unless they are clanged on a cill! As you say, if it comes to bits, ideally a press or at the very least a gert big hammer, some ear plugs and some sweat and endeavour will get it back into shape. She was docked in June and took the opportunity to replace the rudder stock bearing. The swan neck was a MF to get off then! Hence I'm mighty pissed that it's happened now! That's a bugger.
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Post by kris on Dec 31, 2017 11:47:36 GMT
I've usually found rusty old rudders reluctant to come to bits, unless they are clanged on a cill! As you say, if it comes to bits, ideally a press or at the very least a gert big hammer, some ear plugs and some sweat and endeavour will get it back into shape. She was docked in June and took the opportunity to replace the rudder stock bearing. The swan neck was a MF to get off then! Hence I'm mighty pissed that it's happened now! it might come off easier this time, having been off so recently.
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Post by larkboy on Dec 31, 2017 11:57:21 GMT
Nice idea but I have horizontal 'fins' just below the bend to can't get channel clamped on true bit! 10mm thick so I got a bit of an ask methinks. 10mm needs a press. Rudder off job Amen to that, you definitely aren't shifting 10mm without either a press as Gazza says, or heat or both. That is piss poor luck, but unfortunately it is rudder off....😡😡
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Post by aquarat on Dec 31, 2017 11:57:44 GMT
Yea, thanks guys. Pretty much where my brain was with it. One thing I didn't try was a bearing puller on it. Might try and source one. If I can get it off then at least I can leave her in the wet and attack it with a press of some description or hammer and bottle of whisky :-)
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Post by bargemast on Dec 31, 2017 12:35:44 GMT
Yea, thanks guys. Pretty much where my brain was with it. One thing I didn't try was a bearing puller on it. Might try and source one. If I can get it off then at least I can leave her in the wet and attack it with a press of some description or hammer and bottle of whisky :-) You'll stand a better chance as said with a press then with the hammering of 10mm steel, but don't hammer with the whisky bottle as that won't be up for a job like that Peter.
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