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Post by bodger on Feb 26, 2018 9:05:36 GMT
just for starters:-
how about all retail outlets (food, DIY, etc.) being required to set aside a space after the tills where the customer can debag (remove as much packaging as he/she wishes) all his purchases? ....... shops to be obliged to provide a free supply of bio-degradable brown paper bags of various sizes for loose items - just like they used to....... let the shops take responsibility for recycling the thousands of tonnes of plastic and cardboard they give away unnecessarily.
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Post by Graham on Feb 26, 2018 9:15:15 GMT
Agree totally about 80% of the rubbish from my home is rubbish that should not have been. If I buy say meat at a supermarket it comes in multiple layers of plastic together with little sponges etc to soak up the juices/added water. If I buy at the local butchers it is wrapped in waxed paper and put in a bag all recyclable and about a quarter of the compared to the supermarket.
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Post by thebfg on Feb 26, 2018 9:49:49 GMT
Afaik you do realise retailers have to take back any packaging you don't want. Just strip it down at the till and leave it with them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 11:16:38 GMT
If you shop by car and use a trolley you can strip the excess waste and just leave it in the trolley. If you use a split nylon washer instead of a £ you don't even have to take the trolley back to the "trolley park".
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 12:07:45 GMT
Went shopping yesterday, spent half hour unwrapping all the fruit and veg and putting in the fridge, must have been a carrier bag full of plastic that is not needed...
Milk bottles, why not just swap to coated cardboard, not sure glass is the answer though..
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Post by kris on Feb 26, 2018 12:14:38 GMT
As regards milk bottles, you would probably find the plastic bottles are more recyclable than a coated cardboard. Because of the mixed materials. Glass whilst having drawbacks is very durable and recyclable as many times as you want.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 12:21:29 GMT
A lot of the packaging is there to extend the life of the food or drink product as much as possible. Tetra pak. Horrible rubbish but apparently it makes the whole thing more profitable at the end of the day and profit is all anyone wants so it must be good. And its easy enough to dress up profit as "efficiency" so everyone is happy.
It does make me want to vomit when I see Prince Charles going on about how concerned he is for the oceans with all the plastic waste.
Fuck Off and talk to your plants you parasite !
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Post by patty on Feb 26, 2018 13:19:37 GMT
I buy as much fruit n veg as I can that is loose...in fact now I avoid multi packs crisps etc as there is to much waste.... I try as much as I can to recycle everything and burn on Rayburn burnable stuff...I do worry about the environment and Ive been retrieving all the plastic c... my predessors here dumped over the field..however not touching what I think maybe leaky old battery built into rock pile....Ive now started clearing next doors non compostable compost heap..
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Post by thebfg on Feb 26, 2018 15:58:39 GMT
Not long ago sainsburys sold a milk jug and then you brought milk in a bag and poured it into the jug at home. We used to buy them but then they just stopped.
We leave boxes and stuff with shops especially when you buy something small and it's encased in a big plastic envelope, you know the type that cuts your hands open as they are nearly impossible to get into.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 16:33:51 GMT
I can't remember the exact details, but the air in the plastic enclosed meat packaging is different from the air we breath - prolongs shelf life - increases profits.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 16:41:27 GMT
As long as it increases profit then its all good. That's the only reason for supplying food to people. To make money. I shop at Lidl (horrible) and Tesco (horrid) so I buy into the bullshit scheme because of a need to eat. All the deluded souls who buy 'organic' and all that sort of bollicks are giving even more profit to the profit-hungry scum while believing they are somehow saving the planet rather than just starving and poisoning some Africans !. Not a lot one can do about it at the end of the day unless you do the proper hippy thing and grow all your own food and sphagnum moss to wipe your arse with.
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Post by patty on Feb 26, 2018 18:20:21 GMT
There are still indoor and outdoor markets..we really don't all need to buy into the plastic culture..but it easy particularly if you work. Its not like years ago when wifey stayed home and could shop at different shops ..so many folks work and society has 'progressed' in response
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Post by thebfg on Feb 26, 2018 21:09:34 GMT
I can't remember the exact details, but the air in the plastic enclosed meat packaging is different from the air we breath - prolongs shelf life - increases profits. I can't either. Our steaks are vacumn packed so no air but our turkeys as Xmas are pumped with something. We're not allowed to open the outer packaging until a certain date. Which will make sure they last till boxing day.
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Post by dyertribe on Feb 26, 2018 22:50:43 GMT
There are still indoor and outdoor markets..we really don't all need to buy into the plastic culture..but it easy particularly if you work. Its not like years ago when wifey stayed home and could shop at different shops ..so many folks work and society has 'progressed' in response I agree, if I did my shopping in these markets that would take up all my free time at the weekend and as I work all week I am quite protective of my free time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2018 8:11:20 GMT
Im gonna buy a van and start a milk round with glass milk bottles, bread in paper bags, fresh fruit and veg in a paper bag..
This time next year rodders!
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