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Post by naughtyfox on May 16, 2018 7:53:07 GMT
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 16, 2018 14:05:22 GMT
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Post by naughtyfox on May 16, 2018 16:31:09 GMT
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Post by quaysider on May 16, 2018 17:05:32 GMT
Where are you now QS? We are heading upto Appley lock for a picnic on Saturday then a few weeks at Parbold / Burscough we're in the "layby" at Appley lock until early next week. It's the "duck race" on Sunday which we'll walk back to. |
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Post by naughtyfox on May 17, 2018 8:12:13 GMT
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Post by naughtyfox on May 17, 2018 8:15:02 GMT
"Every homeless person and rough sleeper in Britain should descend on Windsor on Friday to reclaim the streets and cause maximum embarrassment for the royals and the Government's disgusting treatment of them."
Looks like it's a crime to be homeless, with the Police moving them on. Where did the police suddenly get so many 'resources' for this vanity project? Murders, boat thefts, rapes - take a Crime Number... and wait!
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Post by kris on May 17, 2018 8:38:24 GMT
Looks like it's a crime to be homeless, with the Police moving them on. It is actually a criminal offence to be NFA in the uk. |
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Post by naughtyfox on May 17, 2018 10:48:55 GMT
So 'continuous cruisers' are criminals?
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Post by kris on May 17, 2018 10:55:21 GMT
So 'continuous cruisers' are criminals? To get a boat liscence you have to provide an address. It never used to be illegal to be NFA, but the law was changed some time ago. So f you are stopped by the police and can't supply an address then you can be arrested. For obvious reasons not many people are prosecuted of the offence. But that doesn't stop it being a criminal offence. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 11:02:42 GMT
I thought that it was the Vagrancy Act (dating back to the 1800s and only partially repealed in E&W) that made it illegal. I don't think boaters would fall under the act as they have a home (it's not actually illegal not to have a fixed address - I think).
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 11:36:10 GMT
Vagrancy Act 1824 as amended by Criminal Justice Act 1982
70 Vagrancy offences.
(1)Where a person is convicted—
(a)under section 3 or 4 of the M1Vagrancy Act 1824, of wandering abroad, or placing himself in any public place, street, highway, court, or passage, to beg or gather alms; or
(b)under section 4 of that Act—
(i)of wandering abroad and lodging in any barn or outhouse, or in any deserted or unoccupied building,or in the open air, or under a tent, or in any cart or waggon, and not giving a good account of himself; or
(ii)of wandering abroad, and endeavouring by the exposure of wounds and deformities to obtain or gather alms,
the court shall not have power to sentence him to imprisonment but shall have the same power to fine him as if this section had not been enacted.
(2)If a person deemed a rogue and vagabond by virtue of section 4 of the Vagrancy Act 1824 is thereafter guilty of an offence mentioned in subsection (1) above, he shall be convicted of that offence under section 4 of that Act and accordingly—
(a)shall not be deemed an incorrigible rogue; and
(b)shall not be committed to the Crown Court,
by reason only of that conviction.
(3)This section applies to offences committed before as well as after it comes into effect.
Happy to know if any other laws apply.
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Post by Delta9 on May 17, 2018 11:51:38 GMT
So 'continuous cruisers' are criminals? To get a boat liscence you have to provide an address. It never used to be illegal to be NFA, but the law was changed some time ago. So f you are stopped by the police and can't supply an address then you can be arrested. For obvious reasons not many people are prosecuted of the offence. But that doesn't stop it being a criminal offence. Which law makes it illegal to be of no fixed abode? Which law makes it a criminal offense not to give an address to the police? |
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Post by kris on May 17, 2018 13:31:16 GMT
To get a boat liscence you have to provide an address. It never used to be illegal to be NFA, but the law was changed some time ago. So f you are stopped by the police and can't supply an address then you can be arrested. For obvious reasons not many people are prosecuted of the offence. But that doesn't stop it being a criminal offence. Which law makes it illegal to be of no fixed abode? Which law makes it a criminal offense not to give an address to the police? I probably didn't word it correctly and while technically it isn't a criminal offence to be homeless yet. There is an increased tendency to criminalise the behaviour of homeless people. Here's a link to a site that has links to the laws that are being used against homeless people. theconversation.com/britains-dark-history-of-criminalising-homeless-people-in-public-spaces-74097 |
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 17, 2018 17:33:06 GMT
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 17, 2018 17:34:45 GMT
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