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Post by Delta9 on Jul 3, 2018 17:06:56 GMT
As a new land dweller, I received a lovely letter today... It starts off with "This is your invitation to register" and ends with "You need to respond to this letter, even if you think you are not eligible to register to vote. If you don't you could be fined £80. Please respond by 20/07/18"
I don't think that can be described as an invitation, it seems more like a demand.
I have no intention of registering, they can get fucked. I would quite like to vote, but have no desire for my information to be published and available to anyone. This leads me to two questions..
1) Do you think that they will actually fine me, or is it an empty threat?
2) How does them publishing the electoral register for any Tom, Dick or Harry to read fit in with the new data protection regulations?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 3, 2018 17:16:37 GMT
I'm surprised you got a mortgage without being on the electoral roll, I presume you paid outright? In my experience of other people trying to avoid being on it, if they know where you are they will just hassle you endlessly until you give up just to make them go away.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 17:19:15 GMT
As a new land dweller, I received a lovely letter today... It starts off with "This is your invitation to register" and ends with "You need to respond to this letter, even if you think you are not eligible to register to vote. If you don't you could be fined £80. Please respond by 20/07/18" I don't think that can be described as an invitation, it seems more like a demand. I have no intention of registering, they can get fucked. I would quite like to vote, but have no desire for my information to be published and available to anyone. This leads me to two questions.. 1) Do you think that they will actually fine me, or is it an empty threat? 2) How does them publishing the electoral register for any Tom, Dick or Harry to read fit in with the new data protection regulations? 1) some people do get fined, but I suspect they are the very exception
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Post by Delta9 on Jul 3, 2018 17:24:38 GMT
I'm surprised you got a mortgage without being on the electoral roll, I presume you paid outright? In my experience of other people trying to avoid being on it, if they know where you are they will just hassle you endlessly until you give up just to make them go away. I only got a mortgage for 50% of the value. My mortgage advisor told me that they are less concerned about things like that when you have a larger deposit. A friend of mine in a similar situation had quite a bit of hassle getting a mortgage because he only had 20% deposit, I think the bank forced him to register before they would give him the mortgage. I can look forward to more demanding letters then.. They can go straight in the recycling with the TV license harasment letters. |
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Post by Delta9 on Jul 3, 2018 17:28:48 GMT
As a new land dweller, I received a lovely letter today... It starts off with "This is your invitation to register" and ends with "You need to respond to this letter, even if you think you are not eligible to register to vote. If you don't you could be fined £80. Please respond by 20/07/18" I don't think that can be described as an invitation, it seems more like a demand. I have no intention of registering, they can get fucked. I would quite like to vote, but have no desire for my information to be published and available to anyone. This leads me to two questions.. 1) Do you think that they will actually fine me, or is it an empty threat? 2) How does them publishing the electoral register for any Tom, Dick or Harry to read fit in with the new data protection regulations? 1) some people do get fined, but I suspect they are the very exception I did look into opting out of the open register, but you still end up listed on the electoral register, which I don't want. Apparently you can register anonymously, but have to provide some sort of proof that you are being stalked or harassed. Maybe if I wait until they've sent me some more letters I can use that as evidence of harassment.. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 17:32:02 GMT
There is a link between the 'open register' and TV licence....
Unlicensed address, bod gets asked to visit, bod checks open register, bod turns up at address and sees TV in use, bod asks for person by name - pretty much see you in court....
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 3, 2018 17:33:23 GMT
I'm surprised you got a mortgage without being on the electoral roll, I presume you paid outright? In my experience of other people trying to avoid being on it, if they know where you are they will just hassle you endlessly until you give up just to make them go away. I can look forward to more demanding letters then.. They can go straight in the recycling with the TV license harasment letters. No- they will send people round. I presume they do threaten to escalate legal proceedings as everyone I know has given up in the end. To be honest though, there seems little advantage to not being on it as it is a requirement for almost anything that requires credit, the best thing to do is probably to be on it, but opt out of the open register. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 17:34:17 GMT
1) some people do get fined, but I suspect they are the very exception Maybe if I wait until they've sent me some more letters I can use that as evidence of harassment.. TV Licensing are happy to help you with your problem.......... |
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Post by Delta9 on Jul 3, 2018 17:44:17 GMT
I can look forward to more demanding letters then.. They can go straight in the recycling with the TV license harasment letters. No- they will send people round. I presume they do threaten to escalate legal proceedings as everyone I know has given up in the end. To be honest though, there seems little advantage to not being on it as it is a requirement for almost anything that requires credit, the best thing to do is probably to be on it, but opt out of the open register. I will wait and see what they do then, I don't answer the door unless I am expecting visitors anyway. I don't really care about credit rating. The letter only says that they can fine me for not doing it, it doesn't mention that they can force me to do it. I'm happy to pay the fine if I can stay off the list. |
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Post by Delta9 on Jul 3, 2018 17:45:23 GMT
Maybe if I wait until they've sent me some more letters I can use that as evidence of harassment.. TV Licensing are happy to help you with your problem.......... They don't seem to know who I am yet, their threats are aimed at 'the occupier'. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 17:50:24 GMT
TV Licensing are happy to help you with your problem.......... They don't seem to know who I am yet, their threats are aimed at 'the occupier'. They are making threats, that is harassment.... (in some people's minds). |
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Post by metanoia on Jul 3, 2018 18:37:16 GMT
No- they will send people round. I presume they do threaten to escalate legal proceedings as everyone I know has given up in the end. To be honest though, there seems little advantage to not being on it as it is a requirement for almost anything that requires credit, the best thing to do is probably to be on it, but opt out of the open register. I will wait and see what they do then, I don't answer the door unless I am expecting visitors anyway. I don't really care about credit rating. The letter only says that they can fine me for not doing it, it doesn't mention that they can force me to do it. I'm happy to pay the fine if I can stay off the list. I'm not on it (ER) and can't even get a pension forecast as I have no credit rating at all so HMRC do not recognise me - even though they took nearly £6 grand off me last year!!!
Should I be posting this in the "joke of the day" thread? -... you couldn't make it up, really...
Keep ignoring them D9 - better still, stand up to them and they will - eventually - back off.
Met x
eta - crowdfunding for the fine? I'm sure we'll all help out ...
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 3, 2018 18:51:13 GMT
As a new land dweller, I received a lovely letter today... It starts off with "This is your invitation to register" and ends with "You need to respond to this letter, even if you think you are not eligible to register to vote. If you don't you could be fined £80. Please respond by 20/07/18" I don't think that can be described as an invitation, it seems more like a demand. I have no intention of registering, they can get fucked. I would quite like to vote, but have no desire for my information to be published and available to anyone. This leads me to two questions.. 1) Do you think that they will actually fine me, or is it an empty threat? 2) How does them publishing the electoral register for any Tom, Dick or Harry to read fit in with the new data protection regulations? Seems slightly paranoid! What “information” are you worried about? It’s only your name and addresss. If you don’t want that information publicly available to be sold to direct marketing companies etc (and who would?!) you can opt out of the “public” register. If you don’t register you can be fined in court up to £1000 and get a criminal record. Is it worth it? |
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 3, 2018 18:53:44 GMT
They don't seem to know who I am yet, their threats are aimed at 'the occupier'. They are making threats, that is harassment.... (in some people's minds). No, the government made the threats when they created the law making it a criminal offence not to be registered. I would complain to Theresa May. |
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Post by Delta9 on Jul 3, 2018 19:06:01 GMT
As a new land dweller, I received a lovely letter today... It starts off with "This is your invitation to register" and ends with "You need to respond to this letter, even if you think you are not eligible to register to vote. If you don't you could be fined £80. Please respond by 20/07/18" I don't think that can be described as an invitation, it seems more like a demand. I have no intention of registering, they can get fucked. I would quite like to vote, but have no desire for my information to be published and available to anyone. This leads me to two questions.. 1) Do you think that they will actually fine me, or is it an empty threat? 2) How does them publishing the electoral register for any Tom, Dick or Harry to read fit in with the new data protection regulations? Seems slightly paranoid! What “information” are you worried about? It’s only your name and addresss. If you don’t want that information publicly available to be sold to direct marketing companies etc (and who would?!) you can opt out of the “public” register. If you don’t register you can be fined in court up to £1000 and get a criminal record. Is it worth it? I have a bit of a bee in my bonnet about this sort of thing. I don't like being part of the system. |
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