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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 13:56:57 GMT
Local authority management of towpaths including towpath moorings. If drastic action is taken then it going to have an awfully strange effect on the second hand boat market ! Just sounds like you’re stirring and gloating again. I’m alright Jack, I have money and can afford to moor my boats in London...lol The fact is that some boaters can’t afford to pay for a mooring. What do you suggest? Sell their boat for bugger all and do what exactly? Where are you going to put them? You are wrong again. Accommodation generally costs money. Some people buy houses with cash most people borrow to buy and some people pay someone who has borrowed to buy in order to use their property (rental). All this involves a regular payment of some sort unless you have the cash. If you have no money and can demonstrate this and fill out forms you can claim state funded "benefit" payments to alleviate the housing costs. This is quite a common route for people without much cash. The situation on boats is that you can buy one and pay something yearly which is less than 10% of what you would have to pay to rent a house and you can live on it. This will obviously cause a bias of some sort over time. Its not rocket science. If you think I am gloating and trying to fuck up other people's lives you are sadly mistaken. I am simply discussing (discussion forum?) the current situation. Another thing I have noticed and I am not alone in noticing this is that people who are using boats as dwellings simply because it is the cheapest option quite often seem to be less concerned with things like being considerate with noise nuisance because they know that if regulations come in to control the behaviour they will just do something else. Some people want to live on boats for non financial reasons and have an interest in the future viability of the lifestyle
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Post by kris on Nov 17, 2018 13:58:09 GMT
Having seen lots and lots of new 'swish' 'apartments' (flats) being built beside canals, I think this is a sinister danger to boating as we know it. The folk who move who into these digs don't seem to like boats or boaters and there appear signs saying 'Do Not Moor Here'. Market Drayton on the Shropshire Union Canal provides an example of this. Flats with their own boats moored down below with a sign on the opposite bank asking you not to moor there as the boats can't get out otherwise - well, who gave you the right to construct new permanent jetties below your flats? Selfish arseholes! Living on the inland waterways is under threat from all directions, so unless boaters start uniting and making their voices heard. Then living on boats will be a thing of the past.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 17, 2018 14:17:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 14:21:16 GMT
I think the nbta is an undercover CRT agitator group There's enough freedom already wtf try to get more ? Only result will be less. I'm sure they are working for the enemy
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 14:29:05 GMT
Having seen lots and lots of new 'swish' 'apartments' (flats) being built beside canals, I think this is a sinister danger to boating as we know it. The folk who move who into these digs don't seem to like boats or boaters and there appear signs saying 'Do Not Moor Here'. Market Drayton on the Shropshire Union Canal provides an example of this. Flats with their own boats moored down below with a sign on the opposite bank asking you not to moor there as the boats can't get out otherwise - well, who gave you the right to construct new permanent jetties below your flats? Selfish arseholes! Living on the inland waterways is under threat from all directions, so unless boaters start uniting and making their voices heard. Then living on boats will be a thing of the past. Unite yes, but define ‘boater’? What we have here is a conflict of interest between those who just want to use a boat as a (cheap?) dwelling and those who want to explore the system in the true spirit of the 1995 act.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 14:30:56 GMT
I think the nbta is an undercover CRT agitator group There's enough freedom already wtf try to get more ? Only result will be less. I'm sure they are working for the enemy I don’t know, you’ll have to ask your mate Nigel.
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Post by kris on Nov 17, 2018 14:36:05 GMT
They are definately not a far right anti immigrant group, so I can understand why you don't like them.
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Post by kris on Nov 17, 2018 14:37:53 GMT
Living on the inland waterways is under threat from all directions, so unless boaters start uniting and making their voices heard. Then living on boats will be a thing of the past. Unite yes, but define ‘boater’? What we have here is a conflict of interest between those who just want to use a boat as a (cheap?) dwelling and those who want to explore the system in the true spirit of the 1995 act. Wrong again. Maybe you would like to define the "true" spirit of the 1995act that you keep,mentioning.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 15:11:19 GMT
Unite yes, but define ‘boater’? What we have here is a conflict of interest between those who just want to use a boat as a (cheap?) dwelling and those who want to explore the system in the true spirit of the 1995 act. Wrong again. Maybe you would like to define the "true" spirit of the 1995act that you keep,mentioning. The NBTA have one interpretation of it, CRT another and we all have our own personal interpretation of it. My interpretation is that the law was changed in 1995 to remove the necessity of having to have a home moooring if you wanted to navigate around the system. Another example of how divide and conquer works, They tried it with wide beams and now this. I think MM might be onto something...
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Post by kris on Nov 17, 2018 15:23:48 GMT
Wrong again. Maybe you would like to define the "true" spirit of the 1995act that you keep,mentioning. My interpretation is that the law was changed in 1995 to remove the necessity of having to have a home moooring if you wanted to navigate around the system. This is wrong. So basicly you are demanding people abide by something that isn't defined clearly?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 15:35:28 GMT
My interpretation is that the law was changed in 1995 to remove the necessity of having to have a home moooring if you wanted to navigate around the system. This is wrong. So basicly you are demanding people abide by something that isn't defined clearly? You still haven’t told me your interpretation of the 1995 act or your definition of a ‘boater’? If you are going to tell me I’m wrong, then at least explain why?
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Post by kris on Nov 17, 2018 15:39:16 GMT
Because you never have needed a mooring to liscence a boat yet. Your the one you kept mentioning the "true" spirit of the 1995 legislation,so I thought you might be in possession of some facts that no one else is.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 17, 2018 15:41:35 GMT
They are definately not a far right anti immigrant group, so I can understand why you don't like them. Not my words - someone else's viewpoint. Despite appearances, I am fairly easy-going.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 17, 2018 15:45:09 GMT
My interpretation is that the law was changed in 1995 to remove the necessity of having to have a home moooring if you wanted to navigate around the system. This is wrong. So basicly you are demanding people abide by something that isn't defined clearly? How much does one take out of Society? How much does one put into Society? Do we want to live in such a Society? Can we live outside such a Society? All very fuzzy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 15:53:50 GMT
Because you never have needed a mooring to liscence a boat yet. Your the one you kept mentioning the "true" spirit of the 1995 legislation,so I thought you might be in possession of some facts that no one else is. Well I’m happy to learn. I always thought the 1995 act came about because lots of ‘boaters’ got together to get a change in the law so they didn’t have to have a home mooring. I thought that was because they wanted to explore the system, so wouldn’t need a home mooring. Are you saying that wasn’t the intention behind the 1995 act? If so, what was the history behind it?
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