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Post by kris on Nov 18, 2018 18:58:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 19:04:20 GMT
It's a floating posh shed.
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Post by kris on Nov 18, 2018 19:22:37 GMT
It's a floating posh shed. I tend to agree |
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Post by ched on Nov 18, 2018 19:23:42 GMT
It's seems ironic cuz it looks very similar to the floating 'lodges' (nicknamed 'the sheds' by some moorers) bwml we're promoting at their Sawley Marina - might be more to this one than meets the eye...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 19:28:48 GMT
It's a floating posh shed. I tend to agree I like a bit of let live but can't support those that take it too far. One of the things about the waterways is they have boats on them, as soon as this changes to (many) floating sheds then regulations will change due to public pressure. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 19:29:06 GMT
Its understandable that some marinas don't like houseboats. Houseboats have slightly different legal status to cruising vessels ( NigelMoore will know about this). another thing is that it is a risk for the marina because if the houseboat deteriorates and the owner disappears it is possible that the houseboat may be technically worthless and the marina may find themselves with a bill for waste disposal. I believe this could be the reason and I seem to recall that some mooring providers ask for a security bond up front to cover this possibility. Or just don't allow houseboats. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 19:31:56 GMT
It's seems ironic cuz it looks very similar to the floating 'lodges' (nicknamed 'the sheds' by some moorers) bwml we're promoting at their Sawley Marina - might be more to this one than meets the eye... I wonder if that was related to BWML being on the market. Widen the appeal to potential investors / asset strippers. Do these boxes come with leases or normal mooring licenses? It is presumably up to BWML to refuse to renew a contract if they choose to so having a non navigable houseboat would be quite risky. Eta it would be another story if the marina operator decided to remove existing vessels and fill the marina with their own houseboats which they then rent out to residential tenants. Or maybe something like mobile home parks but I don't know how they work. That would be a model I could see working on the more popular and expensive marinas. But for individuals to have yearly mooring contracts with floating shed/houseboats is going to be risky for both parties. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 19:33:42 GMT
Its understandable that some marinas don't like houseboats. Houseboats have slightly different legal status to cruising vessels ( NigelMoore will know about this). another thing is that it is a risk for the marina because if the houseboat deteriorates and the owner disappears it is possible that the houseboat may be technically worthless and the marina may find themselves with a bill for waste disposal. I believe this could be the reason and I seem to recall that some mooring providers ask for a security bond up front to cover this possibility. Or just don't allow houseboats. <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 27.279999999999973px; height: 4.5px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_74821217" scrolling="no" width="27.279999999999973" height="4.5"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 27.28px; height: 4.5px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1300px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_11399475" scrolling="no" width="27.279999999999973" height="4.5"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 27.28px; height: 4.5px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 164px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_48944320" scrolling="no" width="27.279999999999973" height="4.5"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 27.28px; height: 4.5px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1300px; top: 164px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_6989195" scrolling="no" width="27.279999999999973" height="4.5"></iframe> I'd be happy for no further 'Houseboat' licenses to be allowed, other than those already allowed. I doubt that is the issue here though. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 19:39:23 GMT
If the marina has a "boat must be able to navigate the inland waterways" clause there must be a reason for it. I suppose it could simply be that the marina does not have full residential planning permission. I suspect its to do with the risk associated with abandonment of a worthless floating box. Whereas a powered cruising vessel would usually have a value above £2.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 19:44:21 GMT
If the marina has a "boat must be able to navigate the inland waterways" clause there must be a reason for it. I suppose it could simply be that the marina does not have full residential planning permission. I suspect its to do with the risk associated with abandonment of a worthless floating box. Whereas a powered cruising vessel would usually have a value above £2. Isn't it to do with relevant licences (i.e. the correct one for the thing afloat). |
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Post by ched on Nov 18, 2018 19:48:16 GMT
I know they were asking 120k to buy one of them but, sorry magnet man I don't know what any of the terms are/we're.
I heard they sold one but there were some problems with construction and the buyer was not a happy bunny so pulled out.
You may know though that they did however apply for and obtain planning permission for a certain amount of berths to have 'residential status' and I think this was purely to to try and boost their assets (3 yrs on and they still haven't discharged conditions attached to the approval such as installing a pedestrian crossing).
As you may guess we have a few fellow boaters who moor there - the place could be run so much better than it is so trying to see the forthcoming change of ownership as a positive.
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Post by kris on Nov 18, 2018 19:52:18 GMT
the place could be run so much better than it is so trying to see the forthcoming change of ownership as a positive. apart from the inevitable price rises. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 19:58:12 GMT
A bloke I chatted with at Limehouse marina also said he thought it was a good thing if BWML were replaced. I would have assumed it would be bad because there would be more of a focus on profit but maybe that's not the case.
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Post by kris on Nov 18, 2018 20:09:14 GMT
A bloke I chatted with at Limehouse marina also said he thought it was a good thing if BWML were replaced. I would have assumed it would be bad because there would be more of a focus on profit but maybe that's not the case. I can't see who ever buys BWML doing so they can run a better service for boaters. It sounds like wishful thinking to me. They will want to maximize profits. |
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Post by ched on Nov 18, 2018 20:09:21 GMT
Yep, unfortunately I feel any commercial entity will see it as an opportunity to 'review' the fees.
I just hope it's not to much of a hike and moorers there will get a forward thinking management free of all the cultural issues this one seems to suffer from with good facilities and services that, unlike presently, will not be left wanting.
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