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Post by kris on Nov 21, 2018 14:07:45 GMT
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Post by JohnV on Nov 21, 2018 14:14:55 GMT
Actually I hope the opposite Kris. People seem to view it as purely a move to speed up passenger transit times but it has another function that is often overlooked. It removes a large proportion of passenger traffic from the existing line freeing it up to carry more freight ....... if you are in favour of attempts to get freight off the roads this is important. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 14:19:31 GMT
I thought the whole point of HS2 was Tony Blair having a go at the Tory road building lobby.
And obviously making it easier for people to get away from Birmingham faster.
Eta I don't know much about rail so probably got it all wrong.
Interesting little snippet from Wikipedia
"In October 2016, Andrew Jones, a transport minister, suggested renaming HS2 as the 'Grand Union Railway', not to be confused with the Grand Junction Railway (today the West Coast Main Line). His reasoning for this was because HS2 is not about speed and is more about connectivity.[130] There is currently no firm proposal for this name and HS2 remains to be called HS2 or High Speed 2."
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Post by JohnV on Nov 21, 2018 14:22:48 GMT
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Post by kris on Nov 21, 2018 14:24:37 GMT
Actually I hope the opposite Kris. People seem to view it as purely a move to speed up passenger transit times but it has another function that is often overlooked. It removes a large proportion of passenger traffic from the existing line freeing it up to carry more freight ....... if you are in favour of attempts to get freight off the roads this is important. It's just that ruins at least two spots on the waterways that I really like. Plus the local town where I am now. So I would much rather it stops at Birmingham if it must happen at all. |
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Post by JohnV on Nov 21, 2018 14:27:53 GMT
Actually I hope the opposite Kris. People seem to view it as purely a move to speed up passenger transit times but it has another function that is often overlooked. It removes a large proportion of passenger traffic from the existing line freeing it up to carry more freight ....... if you are in favour of attempts to get freight off the roads this is important. It's just that ruins at least two spots on the waterways that I really like. Plus the local town where I am now. So I would much rather it stops at Birmingham if it must happen at all. get where you are coming from Kris. Over the years have seen many places I liked destroyed by "progress" ..... but I don't have an answer |
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Post by kris on Nov 21, 2018 14:30:40 GMT
It's just that ruins at least two spots on the waterways that I really like. Plus the local town where I am now. So I would much rather it stops at Birmingham if it must happen at all. get where you are coming from Kris. Over the years have seen many places I liked destroyed by "progress" ..... but I don't have an answer There is no answer John, but I think I'd put money on the second phase not getting built. Especially as it's in the north and there's a history of under funding of projects in the north. But I'm sure if it does reach Birmingham then property values will soar. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 14:53:09 GMT
I'm not shocked Hs2 is going over budget. I'm a little shocked Kris has a Times subscription  |
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Post by kris on Nov 21, 2018 15:13:08 GMT
I'm not shocked Hs2 is going over budget. I'm a little shocked Kris has a Times subscription It's okay I don't, but it was the only reference I could find to this. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 15:21:08 GMT
I'm not shocked Hs2 is going over budget. I'm a little shocked Kris has a Times subscription It's okay I don't, but it was the only reference I could find to this. Could have been worse I guess - you could have been forced into posting a Daily mail link! |
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Post by kris on Nov 21, 2018 15:24:40 GMT
It's okay I don't, but it was the only reference I could find to this. Could have been worse I guess - you could have been forced into posting a Daily mail link! Never, I'll leave that to foxy. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 15:34:29 GMT
Info in above link. It's the legislation for the Northern part that is (possibly) being delayed. Probably as much to do with parliamentary time/not wanting to be forced into 'rocking the boat' at the wrong time, as much as the cost overrun.
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Post by kris on Nov 21, 2018 15:47:26 GMT
Info in above link. It's the legislation for the Northern part that is (possibly) being delayed. Probably as much to do with parliamentary time/not wanting to be forced into 'rocking the boat' at the wrong time, as much as the cost overrun.
No that's getting delayed as well. The article I posted a link to is the southern section being delayed because the quotes for some infrastructure have come n at £5.6 billion pounds over budget. As I say the telegraph article is the only reference I could find. |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 21, 2018 15:50:15 GMT
Actually I hope the opposite Kris. People seem to view it as purely a move to speed up passenger transit times but it has another function that is often overlooked. It removes a large proportion of passenger traffic from the existing line freeing it up to carry more freight ....... if you are in favour of attempts to get freight off the roads this is important. Yes, anything that gets these fat, lazy, prostitute-murdering Yorkie-munching slobs off the road gets my vote. |
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Post by peterboat on Nov 21, 2018 15:53:19 GMT
Its strange but true that because HS2 passes very close to her Dads house, he has been given 30K in compensation, and this was only a couple of weeks ago. So I am afraid as this is in Stavely Chesterfield area I think it is going forward
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