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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 22:15:42 GMT
By 2037 they will look at anybody who uses fresh clean water to flush there bodily waste away as very selfish and very un community minded. Most of the worlds population will be using composting loos by then. I agree in principle but will there be any trees for sawdust, or people to shit, what with the right wing take over by ignorant masses currently afoot? I fucking hope Kris is wrong, I'll be 57 and the thought of buggering about with composting Loo's getting close to retirement makes me quite sad
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Post by Stumpy on Jan 21, 2017 22:25:46 GMT
I agree in principle but will there be any trees for sawdust, or people to shit, what with the right wing take over by ignorant masses currently afoot? I fucking hope Kris is wrong, I'll be 57 and the thought of buggering about with composting Loo's getting close to retirement makes me quite sad No Shit
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Post by kris on Jan 22, 2017 16:03:03 GMT
I agree in principle but will there be any trees for sawdust, or people to shit, what with the right wing take over by ignorant masses currently afoot? I fucking hope Kris is wrong, I'll be 57 and the thought of buggering about with composting Loo's getting close to retirement makes me quite sad already a lot of the worlds population don't have access to clean fresh water, without a long walk. So how long do you think the privliged can carry on wasting one of the most valuable essentials for life, on their fetism for cleanliness. It won't just be the "third world" where shortages of water become "the norm" America and Australia are two examples of "developed countries" that already have growing problems over supplying enough water. There's a very interesting book called Cadillac desert, if your really interested in the future of water managment in amerca. Why do you think corporations like coca cola have got into selling water? Because they are concerned with their customers health?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 16:08:32 GMT
I fucking hope Kris is wrong, I'll be 57 and the thought of buggering about with composting Loo's getting close to retirement makes me quite sad already a lot of the worlds population don't have access to clean fresh water, without a long walk. So how long do you think the privliged can carry on wasting one of the most valuable essentials for life, on their fetism for cleanliness. It won't just be the "third world" where shortages of water become "the norm" America and Australia are two examples of "developed countries" that already have growing problems over supplying enough water. There's a very interesting book called Cadillac desert, if your really interested in the future of water managment in amerca. Why do you think corporations like coca cola have got into selling water? Because they are concerned with their customers health? I work in pipeline rehabilitation, I'm well aware of the finite resources we have on the planet. I do however, have an incredibly week stomach and would rather pull the chain and let some other bugger worry about it! I guess I'm not unusual in that respect
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Post by kris on Jan 22, 2017 16:11:42 GMT
already a lot of the worlds population don't have access to clean fresh water, without a long walk. So how long do you think the privliged can carry on wasting one of the most valuable essentials for life, on their fetism for cleanliness. It won't just be the "third world" where shortages of water become "the norm" America and Australia are two examples of "developed countries" that already have growing problems over supplying enough water. There's a very interesting book called Cadillac desert, if your really interested in the future of water managment in amerca. Why do you think corporations like coca cola have got into selling water? Because they are concerned with their customers health? I work in pipeline rehabilitation, I'm well aware of the finite resources we have on the planet. I do however, have an incredibly week stomach and would rather pull the chain and let some other bugger worry about it! I guess I'm not unusual in that respect its just what you have been conditioned too. But would you still be happy to flush it away, if your aware every flush deprives somebody else of water to live.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 16:13:53 GMT
I work in pipeline rehabilitation, I'm well aware of the finite resources we have on the planet. I do however, have an incredibly week stomach and would rather pull the chain and let some other bugger worry about it! I guess I'm not unusual in that respect its just what you have been conditioned too. But would you still be happy to flush it away, if your aware every flush deprives somebody else of water to live. Yes and yes I'm afraid! I am not good at conscience, I got asked to donate monthly to friends of the earth while killing the planet bike racing in Wales. Didn't sign up to that one either!
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Post by peterboat on Jan 22, 2017 16:21:57 GMT
I fucking hope Kris is wrong, I'll be 57 and the thought of buggering about with composting Loo's getting close to retirement makes me quite sad already a lot of the worlds population don't have access to clean fresh water, without a long walk. So how long do you think the privliged can carry on wasting one of the most valuable essentials for life, on their fetism for cleanliness. It won't just be the "third world" where shortages of water become "the norm" America and Australia are two examples of "developed countries" that already have growing problems over supplying enough water. There's a very interesting book called Cadillac desert, if your really interested in the future of water managment in amerca. Why do you think corporations like coca cola have got into selling water? Because they are concerned with their customers health? You are right Kris their are houses for sale in the UK that have composting loos already, and when my mate Dave had a villa built in Florida it was 18 months before water was made available. The day will be upon us shortly when compsting loos are the norm in all households, they wont be like ours the shit will finish up underground where the worms will do their work, also you will add food refuse to the mix which will make perfik compost and will be needed for farms etc
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Post by kris on Jan 22, 2017 16:22:24 GMT
its just what you have been conditioned too. But would you still be happy to flush it away, if your aware every flush deprives somebody else of water to live. Yes and yes I'm afraid! I am not good at conscience, I got asked to donate monthly to friends of the earth while killing the planet bike racing in Wales. Didn't sign up to that one either! its not about signing up to a monthly donation, those charities are part of the problem. But get ready to pay a lot more money per each flush. In Ireland it's onlly recently that anybody has ever had to pay for water. The commodification of the essentials for life, is a very slippery slope. How long before a corporation develops a way of charging people for each lungful of air?
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Post by kris on Jan 22, 2017 16:25:18 GMT
already a lot of the worlds population don't have access to clean fresh water, without a long walk. So how long do you think the privliged can carry on wasting one of the most valuable essentials for life, on their fetism for cleanliness. It won't just be the "third world" where shortages of water become "the norm" America and Australia are two examples of "developed countries" that already have growing problems over supplying enough water. There's a very interesting book called Cadillac desert, if your really interested in the future of water managment in amerca. Why do you think corporations like coca cola have got into selling water? Because they are concerned with their customers health? You are right Kris their are houses for sale in the UK that have composting loos already, and when my mate Dave had a villa built in Florida it was 18 months before water was made available. The day will be upon us shortly when compsting loos are the norm in all households, they wont be like ours the shit will finish up underground where the worms will do their work, also you will add food refuse to the mix which will make perfik compost and will be needed for farms etc when you have the space of being on land you can develop amazing systems, although I must say the boat based systems are already very good.
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Post by tomsk on Jan 22, 2017 16:31:53 GMT
You are right Kris their are houses for sale in the UK that have composting loos already, and when my mate Dave had a villa built in Florida it was 18 months before water was made available. The day will be upon us shortly when compsting loos are the norm in all households, they wont be like ours the shit will finish up underground where the worms will do their work, also you will add food refuse to the mix which will make perfik compost and will be needed for farms etc when you have the space of being on land you can develop amazing systems, although I must say the boat based systems are already very good. Are you referencing the boat based system that involves shitting in a series of boxes and storing them on your boat for upwards of year whilst they fester?
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Post by kris on Jan 22, 2017 16:37:16 GMT
Oh no thunderboats very own cock womble has arrived, there goes any sensible discussion of the issues.
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Post by patty on Jan 22, 2017 16:49:20 GMT
When I was very young my cousins lived in a farm the other side of Oundle golf course..the toilet waste in the farm was buried in pits dug for that purpose.Toilet paper was squares of newspaper. We had oil lamps and I cannot quite remember how water was piped but used to come through brown. I do remember electricity via a generator turned on for the first time and the flickering lights.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jan 22, 2017 16:54:20 GMT
I fucking hope Kris is wrong, I'll be 57 and the thought of buggering about with composting Loo's getting close to retirement makes me quite sad There's a very interesting book called Cadillac desert And another interesting book called 'Voyaging on a Small Income' looking for an address
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Post by kris on Jan 22, 2017 16:56:53 GMT
Yea sorry foxy, I'll have an address for you this week.
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Post by kris on Jan 22, 2017 17:00:08 GMT
It wouldn't be so bad if houses saved grey water from sinks, shower and the bath using this to flush the toilet would be a step in the right direction.
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