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Dec 30, 2018 10:47:46 GMT
Post by JohnV on Dec 30, 2018 10:47:46 GMT
Well, it seems that sometime during the two cwdf mods recent and public malaise my Ban over there has been silently lifted. do you actually care ?
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Dec 30, 2018 10:51:09 GMT
Post by naughtyfox on Dec 30, 2018 10:51:09 GMT
Well, it seems that sometime during the two cwdf mods recent and public malaise my Ban over there has been silently lifted. Winn some, lose some!
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Post by JohnV on Dec 30, 2018 11:00:07 GMT
No, not really, but I did care about the injustice of deleting my posts and giving me an immediate ban for someone else's potty hissy fit and suggesting I am a sock puppet of mjg. Now that I can fully understand and sympathise with
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 11:08:03 GMT
He chooses to use profanity.
It's not big, not clever, and personally I hate it and believe it demeans his posts.
However even I celebrate that here, he is free to use such language (and make an arse of himself).
Rog
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Dec 30, 2018 11:26:13 GMT
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Post by Jim on Dec 30, 2018 11:26:13 GMT
He chooses to use profanity. It's not big, not clever, and personally I hate it and believe it demeans his posts. However even I celebrate that here, he is free to use such language (and make an arse of himself). Rog I think that includes "parking my boat" and all the rest of the non nautical references too. That's far more offensive. Sooo wrong on a boaty forum.
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Post by JohnV on Dec 30, 2018 11:42:36 GMT
I think banning someone from a site is a very dangerous "thin end of the wedge"
I argued long and vociferously against the ban hammer on CWDF saying at the time that I believed it would do great harm to what had been an excellent site.
Banning someone is an extreme form of censorship, something beloved of totalitarian regimes of both the far left and the far right.
It should always be resisted
I am not saying it should never happen but performing such an action should be an anathema to any thinking person
Please note I use the term "thinking person" as opposed to the term "right thinking person" which has come to mean "only those who agree with me"
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Post by phil70 on Dec 30, 2018 11:42:37 GMT
Just because you're an obnoxious ****, doesn't mean you can use the Get Out of Jail Free mental health Card. Foxy, genuine question, why do you persist in using that word when even on TB most people dont like its use as an offensive insult, is it just because you can? I dont think you use such words in ordinary real life conversation, but I could be wrong? Winn, Foxy doesn't use such language in public, not sure why he does here, it does take a lot away from his posts. Oh and as for Potty Mouth Greyladyx, not seen any sign. Phil
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Dec 30, 2018 11:44:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 11:44:10 GMT
I assumed it was all a facebook scheme. Obviously they (fb) DO want to rule the world in terms of social media specially for the older generations so it makes sense to attempt to cause considerable problems on forums. This could in turn make people think "oh what the heck I'll just move over to facebook".
Is that too much of a conspiracy?
I guess so.
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Dec 30, 2018 11:45:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 11:45:25 GMT
He chooses to use profanity. It's not big, not clever, and personally I hate it and believe it demeans his posts. However even I celebrate that here, he is free to use such language (and make an arse of himself). Rog Twat !
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 11:47:51 GMT
I think banning someone from a site is a very dangerous "thin end of the wedge" Banning is a form of bullying. Its incredibly aggressive. Some people use forums as their main social contact. The loss of this could be very damaging in some situations. I personally think its completely out of order unless the person being banned is a persistent troll or just posts offensive rubbish all the time.
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Dec 30, 2018 11:55:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 11:55:40 GMT
Also I believe "problems" can be managed by appropriate group behaviour.
For example I started getting quite offensive a while ago in a slightly warped sense of humour way and dogless pulled me up on it. Personally I do use the F and C word a lot in conversation but I will attempt to judge whether the other person is happy with the language first. My kids hear foul language from me but never directed at them. I am trying to do it less on here except when there is an example like that arsehole cyclist filming the ranting old git. In situations like that you have to call a spade a spade.
Its no good one person trying to moderate another from a position of "I can edit your posts" power. Moderation is for the individual and the group to manage.
It seems to work on here. I think it would be really interesting just as an experiment to leave canal world for day 48 hours unmoderated and see what happens. I suppose the tidying up afterwards might be complex but if it caused serious issues I believe the database can be reset to a previous time (backup) as has happened before due to some sort of error.
Would be an interesting experiment.
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Dec 30, 2018 12:01:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 12:01:28 GMT
That's true but if you have a forum related to a particular interest it would be a bit strange to have someone on there persistently posting rubbish and never anything about the topic. When this forum started it was all a bit odd everyone was excited about being able to call someone else a tit but after a while it turned out to be a bit pointless calling people tits because it is non productive and not interesting. Some humour also developed on that theme thanks to tomsk. There may be situations where bans are required on moderated forums (ironically) but I suspect that on unmoderated the group behaviour will tend to exclude people who are simply there to disrupt or be a nuisance.
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 30, 2018 12:01:59 GMT
I suppose I've been mixing with 'the wrong kind of people' so shall endeavour to ban that word from my posts. Although I find it not offensive at all, and find it as a one syllabyllic word straight to the point, it hammers home with a fierce blow. Welcome to point it out to me if I go astray from the Path of Righteousness.
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Dec 30, 2018 12:05:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 12:05:09 GMT
I suppose I've been mixing with 'the wrong kind of people' so shall endeavour to ban that word from my posts. Although I find it not offensive at all, and find it as,a one syllabyllic word straight to the point, it hammers home with a fierce blow. Welcome to point it out to me if I go astray from the Path of Righteousness. I think "scum" is a useful alternative although lacking the T at the end does reduce its force somewhat. Eta the other word which shall not be written is a very well constructed word regardless of the slang meaning. It "works" as you say.
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Dec 30, 2018 12:10:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 12:10:08 GMT
Would be an interesting experiment. I think cwdf allowing the window of edit to remain open for longer with a mod sending a pm to reconsider the words might also be a good starter towards no moderation at all. I'm pretty sure that has been changed fairly recently in that you now have less time to edit than was the case before. Of course on this platform editing your own posts is available right back to the beginning. That does not alter other peoples quotes though.
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