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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 24, 2019 6:53:41 GMT
You've rather spectacularly missed the point here, which is that television advertisements seem to be being used to promote racial diversity, rather than depicting situations generally observed in everyday life. So the question has to be "What is the agenda here?" I was in Morrisons this a.m. when the lights were dimmed .... apparently to let the autistic shop more easily. We have ramps to improve wheelchair access etc, I see this as civilisation in action. These small changes are to encourage the less able to cope, it's a good thing. 1. The lights were dimmed so you can't see the prices. 2. Nature abhors a race to the bottom. Aeroplanes, trains and buses tend to leave on time and those who have not made it get left behind. This dimming of lights is just another 'we care' virtual signalling trick. A nice touch, yes, but ask the shareholders of Morrisons to give up some of their profits and you'll get a signalling of another sort entirely.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 24, 2019 7:00:59 GMT
Is the delivery driver male or female or non specific and what is their racial origin. Or maybe they are race fluid. Racial fluidity is an emerging topic but it is worth introducing to children at an early age. Make them aware they have the choice around their racial background in the same way they have a choice about what gender to be. One day we will all be equal with the same gender and the same race. No inequalities. Amen.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 24, 2019 7:08:36 GMT
I've no idea what Market Street is, It's a kind of Disneyesque pastiche of a northern street market which Morrisons seem to favour, except it isn't really very convincing, not least because it is in a supermarket and not outdoors. Not having ever heard of this, I looked it up on Google. What a load of cobblers! You have to be a real moron to be taken in by this. I have nothing against Morrisons, it's one place where you can find haggis in a tin - OK, it contains just sheeps' lungs, and not the liver and heart as you'll find in haggis sold in Waitrose, but it's OK as an 'emergency haggis' for when the Duchess of Cambridge comes to visit us. One thing I like about supermarkets is that they often have their own cafes where you can get a sort-of-decent breakfast. And supermarkets often have toilets, as do churches these days, thumbs up for those.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 24, 2019 7:11:33 GMT
It is quite an interesting internal layout but also quite an annoying example of dumbing down. What is all this 'dumbing down'? Getting populations ready for some kind of slaughter? This way to the abattoir, you'll like it there, it's nice and warm.... humans into biscuits.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 24, 2019 7:15:44 GMT
I hate that bloody McCains advert which(Ricky Tomlinson) goes on about diverse family values.It's an advert for pigging oven chips,not world peace !π Happy to oblige:
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 24, 2019 7:17:09 GMT
I hate that bloody McCains advert which(Ricky Tomlinson) goes on about diverse family values.It's an advert for pigging oven chips, heart-attack-on-a-plate, not world peace !π
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 24, 2019 7:19:04 GMT
You've rather spectacularly missed the point here, which is that television advertisements seem to be being used to promote racial diversity, rather than depicting situations generally observed in everyday life. So the question has to be "What is the agenda here?" I think the agenda is advertisers want to sell shit no one needs to everyone, not just white British households. That's a valid viewpoint.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 24, 2019 7:20:56 GMT
I find it odd that people from Bangladesh and Pakistan are described as Asians. I thought they were Indians. yeah, right, they come from the wild west, innit? When asked about your nationality do you reply "British" or "European"?
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 24, 2019 7:26:34 GMT
Secondly, adverts are usually aspirational not representational. I do admire many adverts - a lot of work and skill has gone into making them. Even the adverts in magazines - can you produce those kind of photos? The Christmas ads on TV of recent years have been very good (although I do say it looks rather fake to have Muslims sitting beside a Christmas tree, that was in one of them - Marks & Sparks? John Lewis?). When ads come on TV, that means it's time for me to go and attend to something else for 3 minutes - unless it's a movie which they suspect is going to be popular with many viewers, so then I can stretch it to 4 minutes.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 24, 2019 7:52:39 GMT
I do admire many adverts - a lot of work and skill has gone into making them. Even the adverts in magazines - can you produce those kind of photos? The Christmas ads on TV of recent years have been very good (although I do say it looks rather fake to have Muslims sitting beside a Christmas tree, that was in one of them - Marks & Sparks? John Lewis?). When ads come on TV, that means it's time for me to go and attend to something else for 3 minutes - unless it's a movie which they suspect is going to be popular with many viewers, so then I can stretch it to 4 minutes. What made you think they were Muslims I don't know the answer as never saw the advert. Here you go, Donkey: " Tesco is facing a social media backlash after launching a video showing a Muslim family joining in Christmas festivities. The supermarket group has been accused of 'erasing' Christmas from its shelves. It has sparked complaints about halal meat for another reason, the retailer has said it will not be selling halal-certified turkeys over the festive season. Responding to the criticism over the ad, the retailer said: 'Everyone is welcome at Tesco this Christmas and weβre proud to celebrate the many ways our customers come together over the festive season.' " " Notice how ALL the white British people in the advert are portrayed as dysfunctional and/or idiotic? Boycott Tesco." "Also the one black man is displayed as the only one stealing food.ο»Ώ" "Lol" I think the hijabs are a giveaway as to their religious orientation. I have no objection whatsoever if 'Muslims' would like to celebrate Christmas in 'Western countries' where it is a tradition - and it is more of a tradition than a highly religious event nowadays. You can have Christmas food and presents and decorations and all the excitement at home, there is no prerequisite to attend Christian Church Services. But celebrating Christmas is against their beliefs, so sticking them in an advert about Christmas seems at odds with their creed and insulting to Islam.
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Post by bodger on Mar 24, 2019 7:53:08 GMT
I have worked with Turks, however, and what I experienced has put me off them - blame them for their behaviour, not me for condemning it. you must have a VERY limited experience of Turks. I worked in Turkey for BP, for 6 years solid (Ankara and the Anatolian region) and found everyone from a labourer to a manager to be essentially very polite and considerate, whatever the circumstances. Construction sites, offices, police, shops, trains, planes, hotels, walking in the streets, driving, meeting strangers in the countryside - never had any difficulty in those environments, apart from the lack of a common language. The only problem I ever had was just one occasion with a very arrogant senior executive working for a partner company. perhaps you came across as very fuxxy and they reacted.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 24, 2019 7:57:55 GMT
As an advert I think it is well made, credit to those who made the script, plot, direction and filming. The music fits nicely too.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 24, 2019 8:12:57 GMT
I have worked with Turks, however, and what I experienced has put me off them - blame them for their behaviour, not me for condemning it. you must have a VERY limited experience of Turks. To be fair, everyone I have met who has been on holiday to Turkey have said it's great there. There are a couple of Turks who have taken over the now derelict / closed down petrol station in this village where we live - guess what it is now? Another kebab-pizza joint. How original. Anyway, I popped in there about 3 years ago as I noticed vehicles tanking, to ask if the petrol station had re-opened. Yes, it had, as a 'cold' station (do it yourself, no staff), the Turks are just running their kebab business - but the way the man spoke to me, rather rudely, has put me off becoming one of their customers. I also saw after 9/11 when the Americans were bombing Iraq that Turkey sneakily tried to move in to Iraq, until the Americans told them to keep out of it - obviously trying to snatch some land for themselves.
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Post by bargemast on Mar 24, 2019 8:26:47 GMT
One of them was asking about Amazon I said its all a con. Not at all, it's a service that is needed. I have bought many items from Amazon. They may be twats for avoiding tax (with the blessing of HMRC) but the concept is nothing short of brilliant, as with McDonalds. One has to hail the Americans for their nuance of business. McDonalds is the best proof that you can make tons of money by offering garbage to (innocent) people. I can't understand why that crap is so popular, it's well known that their stuff isn't healthy, so why do people continue to go there ? It's likely that it does damage your brains, a proof of that is the orange idiot that calls himself "A very stable genius", while in reality being, "A most unstable idiot". McDo's are his diet, apart from the occasional KFC, which can't be much better for his health, it's probably too late for him now, but he may become healthier after a couple of years (the rest of his life) eating the food he'll get in prison. The mentality of many of the regular McDo lovers isn't good either, all around these places (that some still call "Restaurants") are always lots of trash bins, but if these bins are more than an arms lenght away, they simply dump their rubbish (wrappings and leftovers) straight where they are. People often say : "We only go there because our kids love it", well if you really love your kids, you shouldn't feed them with that crap, there are scandals almost daily about the products they manage to get people to pay for. I don't know if this writing is a slight indication that I am no fan of McDo or any other so called "Fast food" chain, but I have to admit that even I go into these places occasionally, but only to make use of their crappers that are normally quite clean, and they are (in my eyes) the only good thing about them. Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2019 8:42:54 GMT
Β Β I have worked with Turks, however, and what I experienced has put me off them - blame them for their behaviour, not me for condemning it. you must have a VERY limited experience of Turks. I worked in Turkey for BP... ....but Iβve never been to Turkey....
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